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randm
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: Bloodtest required for visas |
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Hi
I am currently look for a job and was considering China or South Korea. I've now found out that both of these countries require a bloodtest in order to get a working visa.
I'm sure many people will think this is silly but I have a big problem with needles and so have now crossed these 2 countries off of my list of plces to work.
Please could anyone tell me if other countries they've worked in have required a bloodtest for the visa?
I'm from UK. I would like to go to Asia so now I'm thinking about Taiwan or Vietnam, maybe Turkey. But info on any country would be useful.
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Try http://hivtravel.org/ for lists of countries that specify whether a blood test is needed for entry. You can then check the specific country's embassy website for more information on visa requirements.
Tip: When having your blood drawn, avoid watching the technician stick the needle in your arm. |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Bloodtest required for visas |
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randm wrote: |
Hi
I am currently look for a job and was considering China or South Korea. I've now found out that both of these countries require a bloodtest in order to get a working visa.
I'm sure many people will think this is silly but I have a big problem with needles and so have now crossed these 2 countries off of my list of plces to work.
Please could anyone tell me if other countries they've worked in have required a bloodtest for the visa?
I'm from UK. I would like to go to Asia so now I'm thinking about Taiwan or Vietnam, maybe Turkey. But info on any country would be useful.
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Korea, China, Thailand, Vietnam and Taiwan all require a medical for the work visa/work permit.
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Japan doesn't require a blood test for visas, but many jobs will require an annual physical, where blood is taken. |
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: |
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You can definitely cross Saudi Arabia off your list, if you're scared of needles. I had to have 3 blood tests for my work visa. I joined a government sports club, and was told I had to give a blood test for that too! I've also heard you need a blood test to get a Saudi driver's licence.
Turkey doesn't require blood, or any kind of physical at all(this was a few years ago, so this may have changed).
Remember, as another poster has pointed out, it's not just government requirements that might hamper your choice of jobs. A lot of individual employers require physicals too, which will probably involve giving blood. This was the case for me when I was working in Korea.
I know it's easily said, as I've suffered from phobias in the past myself, but you could try and be brave, bite the bullet, and get them over with. It'll certainly expand your options quite a bit. 
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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[quote="nomad soul"]Try http://hivtravel.org/ for lists of countries that specify whether a blood test is needed for entry. You can then check the specific country's embassy website for more information on visa requirements.
Tip: When having your blood drawn, avoid watching the technician stick the needle in your arm.[/quote]
Oddly enough, there was research published quite recently that suggested the opposite is true. If you look at the injection happening, it isn't as stressful. Not what you would expect, but there you go.  |
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MisterButtkins
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:58 am Post subject: |
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You can't be serious. It takes 1 second for them to stick the needle in, that's it. If you can't deal with 1 second of unpleasantness in order to work for years in a foreign country then maybe you should just stay home. Man up and deal with it, or just stay home. Are you really going to let 1 second of pain interfere with what you what to do with your life? Strap on a sack. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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bulgogiboy wrote: |
Oddly enough, there was research published quite recently that suggested the opposite is true. If you look at the injection happening, it isn't as stressful. Not what you would expect, but there you go.  |
Perhaps so because I'm actually mesmerized when watching the blood fill up the tube. But then, blood draws and shots don't faze me. However, I have a friend who's scared of needles but found that singing during inoculations and blood draws works for her. I was once at a clinic waiting for her and heard her softly singing Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" while the (chuckling) technician drew her sample.
But I have to agree with others here. If the OP doesn't get over this fear, then the opportunities for a career in TESOL are going to be extremely limiting, especially since more countries as well as foreign and domestic employers are requiring medical tests/exams. |
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bulgogiboy

Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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MisterButtkins wrote: |
You can't be serious. It takes 1 second for them to stick the needle in, that's it. If you can't deal with 1 second of unpleasantness in order to work for years in a foreign country then maybe you should just stay home. Man up and deal with it, or just stay home. Are you really going to let 1 second of pain interfere with what you what to do with your life? Strap on a sack. |
That's a very rational way to look at the situation. The problem is, phobias aren't rational. It's most likely not the 1 second of unpleasantness that scares the OP, it's the symptoms he/she experiences in anticipation of that that frightening situation. The build up of adrenaline causes heart palpitations, dizziness, chest pains, shortness of breath, and may lead to a full-blown panic attack, which, for anyone who has experienced them, is simply terrifying. In other words, it is not the needle being inserted, but fear itself that is stopping the OP from getting the necessary blood tests.
The OP should get some counselling, so that he/she can conquer this fear, not only to expand his or her job options, but to stop that fear spreading into other areas of his/her life. Either that or just drink a large brandy before the injection.  |
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randm
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Thank-you for your replies.
The hivtravel website is useful. I knew a few countries required a bloodtest but I didn't know it was so many. I does limit my options. However, I was having trouble in deciding where to focus on looking for a job so maybe it is actually helpful.
I had my first and last bloodtest just over a year ago to get married. It was difficult and i'm not doing it again. However, again on a positive note I did find out my blood group (O neg) and I don't have HIV.
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Man up and deal with it, or just stay home. |
I'm not a man and I'm not at home.
Bulgogiboy, thank-you for your understanding, But...
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The OP should get some counselling, so that he/she can conquer this fear |
I think it's the rest of the world that needs counselling for their fear of a disease that is actually quite hard to contract.
And I really don't have any other fears (except cockroaches!). |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Blood tests, especially for visas, cover a lot more than just HIV. Even if you can be 100% certain you won't be required to have an HIV test, there is still a huge likelihood that you will be required to have a blood test for other diseases, illnesses, problems. Even if it's not a visa requirement many employers will require it as part of a regular medical, or for any number of other reasons. In Ecuador for example, you have to have a blood test to get a driving licence, just knowing your blood type isn't enough, it has to be tested at an official centre.
Also, if you go to any country where there are issues with water or insect borne diseases or parasites, you are going to have problems. If you are going to refuse to be tested if you get sick you will be uninsurable, and that will make you a liability to your employer, and leave you in a very vulnerable position.
Is it just blood tests that are an issue, or vaccinations as well? |
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KimWilson86
Joined: 06 May 2011 Posts: 1 Location: York
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I am also terrified of needles and having blood taken. Oddly enough if they used leeches I wouldn't care its the needles I wouldn't care.
I'm hoping to go to Korea so I guess blood test it is.
I love the idea of singing might try singing the Wombles. No one can be scared when singing the Wombles.  |
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