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ninjaniki
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 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: reasons for a rejection of a Z visa |
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| What could be the possible reasons that a Z visa application is rejected by the labor bureau in China? |
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veronica2
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I think one may be that the qualifications weren't what they were looking for, like denied because the person didn't have a bachelor's degree or a TEFL certificate, or two years of experience ...? |
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ninjaniki
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The person has all the requirements: a bachelor's degree, a tefl certificate, and 3 years experience teaching and 5 years post graduate work.
What could be another reason the application was denied by the labor bureau in China? |
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Was some sort of official rejection letter received, or is it just an excuse told by someone at a school ?
Quite possibly someone is just trying to cover the fact that they decided to hire someone else. |
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igorG
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Could be that the person has worked in China before. OP could have given more info.
Another reason may be the school's license/permit to hire foreigners. Schools/centers have to have it and i believe they also have to renew it regularily. |
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ninjaniki
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| No, the person has never worked in China before. The person handling the visa applications for the company stated that a few applications were rejected, and that they will try again to resubmit them, and that usually they are successful the second time around. |
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therock
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ninjaniki wrote: |
| The person has all the requirements: a bachelor's degree, a tefl certificate, and 3 years experience teaching and 5 years post graduate work.? |
Maybe they asked themselves if a person really has the above qualifications and work experience why would they come here and work for peanuts, they most have some sort of mental disorder.
Mental disorder is one reason they can reject your application. |
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ninjaniki wrote: |
| No, the person has never worked in China before. The person handling the visa applications for the company stated that a few applications were rejected, and that they will try again to resubmit them, and that usually they are successful the second time around. |
Tell your friend to keep applying to schools.
It would be foolish to delay getting a job because of believing a possible lie. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: reasons for a rejection of a Z visa |
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| ninjaniki wrote: |
| What could be the possible reasons that a Z visa application is rejected by the labor bureau in China? |
Where is she applying from? China? |
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LanGuTou
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Be careful that this school has the legal rights to be able to issue a 'Z' visa. It is possible that this is a tactic to eventually persuade the applicant that some technicality is preventing the issuing of the 'Z' visa and to come on another type of visa until it is resolved (especially prevalent amongst private schools). |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Was the applicant outside of China? If so, did he get the invitation letter? I'm curious as to which stage of the procedure the application was booted. |
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igorG
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely! The OP has omitted quite a bit of information and i have already pointed out that.
It seems the company in case has failed to arrange a few working permits, or Z visas, for their foreign teaching applicants; however, on the second try the employer has succeeded.
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The person handling the visa applications for the company stated that a few applications were rejected, and that they will try again to resubmit them, and that usually they are successful the second time around. |
The above quote suggests that the employer is a private language school which may temporarily not have a permit to hire foreigners, or which may use connections to get the impermanent privilege. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Did the school suggest that your friend enter China on other documentation ie a tourist visa with the message that 'we'll sort out the Z visa once you're here'.
That would indicate to me that they do not have the right to hire FTs. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| There are a million ideas why they might say no. Only they themselves (the issuing body) know the answer for sure. |
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ninjaniki
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| johntpartee wrote: |
| Was the applicant outside of China? If so, did he get the invitation letter? I'm curious as to which stage of the procedure the application was booted. |
Yes the applicant is applying from outside China in their home country. They did not get the invitation letter yet. I stated that the hold up was in China with the labor bureau. Also it's a well known big company.
No problem. Just wondering if others had any experiences with that. |
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