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Ajarn And
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 Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject: I.B. Certification enough to work in I.B. School? |
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I am an American who currently teaches high school English in Asia. I have a B.A. in English Literature and a TEFL(Teaching English as Foreign Language) Certificate but I do not have a teaching license.
I want to further my career and continue to teach abroad and have good things about the International Baccalaureate school networks I have read about a certificate program http://www.ibo.org/professional-development/professional-certificates/ib-educator-certificates/ endorsed by the I.B. and offered through several colleges. I am curious if this program is would make me a qualified candidate at an I.B. school even though I am not a licensed teacher. I have tried reaching out to I.B. but they tend to be tight lipped because they do not directly hire. I was hoping someone here would have experience.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: I.B. Certification enough to work in I.B. School? |
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| Just contact one of the US universities indicated as offering IB teacher education; they'll be able to answer your specific questions regarding program admissions. |
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Ajarn And
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Thanks for reply, sorry if my question was unclear. I am not asking about getting into the certificate program, I am guessing about the likely hood getting a job at an I.B. school with the certificate after the program.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Ajarn And wrote: |
| I am guessing about the likely hood getting a job at an I.B. school with the certificate after the program. |
I'm not sure why you think that would be the case once you successfully complete a university IB teacher education program.
Some suggestions...
- Start by looking at actual job ads for IB teachers in your specialty and target countries to see what employers expect.
- Set up an informational interview with lead teachers at IB schools in your area. Ditto for asking about and attending events for both IB and noncertified teachers.
- Consider joining International School Reviews, which caters more to the type of school you're interested in. You'll be able to connect with IB teachers worldwide. |
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Big Worm
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Hey. I have successfuly transitioned from esl teacher to ib subject teacher without a license.
I seriously doubt the time and money to do a program like this would actually be worth it.
My recommendation would be to apply to crap low tier schools that will hire people with no experience cuz they can pay low wages. Get your feet wet, and move up.
The ib is fairly dodgy to be honest, and thats why you havent gotten a solid reply from them. but its the international standard, so....
edit, also look at the pgcei |
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nomad soul
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| Big Worm wrote: |
Hey. I have successfuly transitioned from esl teacher to ib subject teacher without a license.
I seriously doubt the time and money to do a program like this would actually be worth it.
My recommendation would be to apply to crap low tier schools that will hire people with no experience cuz they can pay low wages. Get your feet wet, and move up.
The ib is fairly dodgy to be honest, and thats why you havent gotten a solid reply from them. but its the international standard, so....
edit, also look at the pgcei |
You forgot to mention you're in China. |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 4:11 am Post subject: Re: I.B. Certification enough to work in I.B. School? |
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| Ajarn And wrote: |
I am an American who currently teaches high school English in Asia. I have a B.A. in English Literature and a TEFL(Teaching English as Foreign Language) Certificate but I do not have a teaching license.
I want to further my career and continue to teach abroad and have good things about the International Baccalaureate school networks I have read about a certificate program http://www.ibo.org/professional-development/professional-certificates/ib-educator-certificates/ endorsed by the I.B. and offered through several colleges. I am curious if this program is would make me a qualified candidate at an I.B. school even though I am not a licensed teacher. I have tried reaching out to I.B. but they tend to be tight lipped because they do not directly hire. I was hoping someone here would have experience.
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The bottom line is, "It depends".
MOST IB schools require, due to their other accreditation, that you have a recognized qualification in education (B.Ed, PGCE, MAT, M.Ed, etc.) and are licensed as a teacher somewhere (the usual expectation is your home country).
Without those "qualifications" it is possible but difficult and you will always be subject to being made redundant (let go) when someone with those qualifications comes along.
In places like China the odds are in your favor for finding what you seek without having the usual qualifications; the demand for teachers exceeds the supply of qualified teachers by a factor of about 10-1 (10 jobs per qualified teacher applicant) or more (depending on the province).
In places like Brunei, I suspect most of Europe, North America or the middle east your chances effectively drop to "0".
The courses mentioned on the IBO website are for continued professional development (one of those things that qualified teachers are expected to do) not bridges to entry for unqualified teachers.
As an American you can always look into alternative teacher training programs that lead to licensure. Then do some IBO training and in you go.
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