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JZer
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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: Z Visa renewal |
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| Do you have to go back to your home country to renew a Z Visa? |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| As an absolute, no. For some jobs, yes. |
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choudoufu
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renew a z visa?
extend a z visa?
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Oops, thought it was get. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I mean extend. I was told that one has to be in their home country for the initial Z visa. How about extending it for a second year? |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| You don't have to be in your home country for the initial Z visa. You can't be in mainland China. That has been my experience. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
| I mean extend. I was told that one has to be in their home country for the initial Z visa. How about extending it for a second year? |
Wait. Are you a foreign teacher?
Your visa expired as soon as your FAO applied for your residency permit.
If you renew your contract, your FAO will bring you down to the PSB (or the City FAO or Foreign Experts' Bureau to start the process of extending your RESIDENCE PERMIT.
The stickies have a LOT of info about this. Also, do a search. This subject comes up every few days. |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:00 am Post subject: |
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A work visa (z-visa) has the same function as any other visa in China: permission to enter the country. If you have secured a residence permit based on employment, and are able to renew/extend/transfer that permitted residence status, then there is no reason to get another visa. So, staying with the same employer should be the easiest. Changing employers, whether in the same province or not, and getting a new residence permit requires proof that the employee fulfilled the contract underlying the earlier residence permit. That's where the release letter comes in: the old employer must sign and seal a letter stating that you have completed your work under the terms of the contract. Any new residency permit will likely require a new health check as well as work permit and local police registration. The amount of time it takes to secure the new RP probably varies greatly among provinces and among employers.
That's the way it's supposed to work, but things don't always work out. There could be bureaucratic confusion at the province level, or your new or old school could be ignorant about how to go about the process and cause too many delays (so that your existing RP is in danger of expiring). If you leave the mainland while a new residency permit application is in process, then you will likely have to get a new z-visa and start from scratch. |
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waterloo_jamie_m
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| Miles Smiles wrote: |
| JZer wrote: |
| I mean extend. I was told that one has to be in their home country for the initial Z visa. How about extending it for a second year? |
Wait. Are you a foreign teacher?
Your visa expired as soon as your FAO applied for your residency permit.
If you renew your contract, your FAO will bring you down to the PSB (or the City FAO or Foreign Experts' Bureau to start the process of extending your RESIDENCE PERMIT.
The stickies have a LOT of info about this. Also, do a search. This subject comes up every few days. |
Actually, it expires once the RESIDENT permit (not residency) becomes effective, not when it is applied for. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for the help. I applied to a university to start in February and they said that I had to be in the US to process my Z Visa. I didn't believe them but they insisted that I needed to be in the US to process my Z Visa. |
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therock
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| Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for the help. I applied to a university to start in February and they said that I had to be in the US to process my Z Visa. I didn't believe them but they insisted that I needed to be in the US to process my Z Visa. |
Five years ago, people were asking "do I need a degree to teach in China?" The normal response was "maybe, depends on the province / city or if the school has enough guanxi". Now it is universally accepted most if not all provinces require teachers to have a degree.
Needed to be in your home country to apply for the initial Z visa currently depends on the province / city or if your school has enough guanxi. I suspect in a few years this will be a national wide rule. |
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SH_Panda
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| therock wrote: |
Five years ago, people were asking "do I need a degree to teach in China?" The normal response was "maybe, depends on the province / city or if the school has enough guanxi". Now it is universally accepted most if not all provinces require teachers to have a degree.
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LOL 
Most of the teachers in the town I work in don't have degrees.
Although I do have a degree, I wasn't required to ever show the original certificate to anyone. A photocopy was sufficient.
This suggests that although a degree is required, it is very easy to circumvent that particular rule. |
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Miles Smiles
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| waterloo_jamie_m wrote: |
Actually, it expires once the RESIDENT permit (not residency) becomes effective, not when it is applied for. |
Though every resident permit I've been issued has required me to go to the authorities with the FAO with all of the documentation, each time, the docs were dropped off and then returned to me ( and other FTs) about a week to a month later, but the permits were dated the day that the docs were dropped off at the authorities'. So, in my experience, the permit became effective at the time of application, and the visa expired at the same time.
Apologies for having a different experience from yours. I think you're splitting hairs.
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therock
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| SH_Panda wrote: |
| therock wrote: |
Five years ago, people were asking "do I need a degree to teach in China?" The normal response was "maybe, depends on the province / city or if the school has enough guanxi". Now it is universally accepted most if not all provinces require teachers to have a degree.
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LOL
Most of the teachers in the town I work in don't have degrees.
Although I do have a degree, I wasn't required to ever show the original certificate to anyone. A photocopy was sufficient.
This suggests that although a degree is required, it is very easy to circumvent that particular rule. |
Had one school offer me the irresistable amount of 3700 just last month. Although not interested I thought it would be interesting to see how high they would go. They wouldn't budge on upping the salary, but in one email (after I'd already rejected the offer) they asked if I had the orginal copy of my degree. They said it was required by the provincial government. |
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Mister Al
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| If the Letter of Invitation from the employer does not state where you are to apply for the Z visa then you usually have to be in your home country. But the LOI can also state eg 'Apply in Hong Kong'. Ask the FAOto do this for wherever you want to apply from. |
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