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mhj85
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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:35 am Post subject: Z visa for university grad without diploma in hand? options? |
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Does anyone know if the visa offices in China accepts a substitute document for a diploma, for example, a proof of degree conferred or similar official letter from my school, possibly notarized, that states that I have graduated? Such a letter only takes a few days for the university to produce, so if visa offices accept it, then I'm sure the visa process can begin in time for employment in April.
Alternatively, anyone see other possible solutions?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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Opiate
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| I doubt anyone can tell you what they will or won't accept since it depends on the province/city/phase of the moon/time of day. Just keep in mind that these other documents may be totally alien to them. They *may* not understand the meaning. Just try it. You have nothing to lose. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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If you accepted a job in China, how did you manage to apply for one with all of the problems existing at the starting gate? What documentation did you use to get the job?
The application process goes like this: You send your credentials to the school/recruiter, then you are accepted. Then your school applies for your invitation letter with copies of your credentials. You then send the letter of invitation with your credentials to your local Chinese Consulate who then issues your visa.
The hooks get duller every day. |
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zactherat
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| The application process goes like this: You send your credentials to the school/recruiter, then you are accepted. Then your school applies for your invitation letter with copies of your credentials. You then send the letter of invitation with your credentials to your local Chinese Consulate who then issues your visa. |
Alternatively,
a school promises you a job based on a couple of casual emails - they describe attractive conditions and recommend you come in on a tourist visa, assuring you they will sort everything out after you arrive.
Upon arrival, the school changes the conditions of your employment - less pay, terrible accommodation and more hours and responsibilities than they had initially had you believe.
Noticing that you are somewhat disgruntled, the school tell you that they cannot in fact get you a Z visa unless you return to your home country at your own expense, so you end up working illegally and have absolutely no path of recourse as they squeeze all they can from their token foreign migrant worker.
Before long, another backpacker washes up, willing to work for less. And the cycle continues. |
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mhj85
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies.
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I doubt anyone can tell you what they will or won't accept since it depends on the province/city/phase of the moon/time of day.
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The job is in Shandong, will it make a difference?
I will try with those documents none the less. I guess the best way to find out is to ask a local to ask the local visa office if such documents are accepted.
I'm just thinking that there should be other documents that carry the weight of a diploma for visa purposes, such as a letter from my university. |
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therock
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| zactherat wrote: |
Noticing that you are somewhat disgruntled, the school tell you that they cannot in fact get you a Z visa unless you return to your home country at your own expense, . |
And this is where you tell the school to stick their job!  |
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mhj85
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Alternatively, a school promises you a job based on a couple of casual emails - they describe attractive conditions and recommend you come in on a tourist visa, assuring you they will sort everything out after you arrive.
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This doesn't seem to be the case here though. I did my research, and the school seems like a good and reliable place to work. The hiring manager did mention that if I can't get my documents prepared in time, and the visa office doesn't accept a substitute for the diploma, I wouldn't be able to take the position..no messing around with other visa's.
Curious, anyone know of people that used something other than a diploma to get the Z? |
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