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[JimJonesSic]

I have a BA and a CELTA but no experience. Should I just except anything? I have been told the first TESOL job is usually rubbish. Or should I try to push for a direct hire through one of my contacts in one of the Universities and if so how would the work with regards to Visas etc? The problem is I have a family so excepting anything is not as easy as some one who is single.

[spiral78]

Forgive me for being pedantic, but we are language teachers here...

ex�cept (k-spt)
prep.
With the exclusion of; other than; but: everyone except me


ac�cept (k-spt)
v. ac�cept�ed, ac�cept�ing, ac�cepts
v.tr.
1.
a. To answer affirmatively: accept an invitation.
b. To agree to take (a duty or responsibility).
2. To receive (something offered), especially with gladness or approval: accepted a glass of water; accepted their contract.
3. To admit to a group, organization, or place: accepted me as a new member of the club.
4.
a. To regard as proper, usual, or right: Such customs are widely accepted.
b. To regard as true; believe in: Scientists have accepted the new theory.
c. To understand as having a specific meaning.
5. To endure resignedly or patiently: accept one's fate.
6. To be able to hold (something applied or inserted): This wood will not accept oil paints.
7. To receive officially: accept the committee's report.
8. To consent to pay, as by a signed agreement.
9. Medicine To receive (a transplanted organ or tissue) without immunological rejection

[johnslat]

Dear JimJonesSic,

What do you mean by "one of my contacts in one of the universities"? Is this a teacher that you know?

And if you have a "contact" can't he/she tell you about the "visa situation" there?

If you can get a direct hire to a university, that would likely be your best option, given your minimum qualifications (by the way, what's your BA in?).

Regards,
John

[EnglishDoYouSpeakIt]

IMHO, recruiters might bring you over but they wouldn't bring your whole family. Direct hires might facilitate such a thing, but not for someone without experience or a MA. You aren't worth the trouble of bringing two please with you, especially since you're likely to be offered a visit visa and not an iqama.


Maybe Korea will let you bring your family over?

[JimJonesSic]

[JimJonesSic]

[2buckets]

"need I job" ????

Jim Jones cool-aid drinking detected.

[JimJonesSic]

[BretHarte]

On other boards and forums, "Grammar Nazis" annoy me. Here I think it's funny. It's an English teacher's forum. If it gets your panties in a bunch, I'm sure I'll love working with you.

[johnslat]

Dear JimJonesSic,

But you can make up for it. Just tell us how you pronounce "heinous".

Regards,
John

[Dominic-Pax]

[JimJonesSic]

[spiral78]

Well, to be honest, there is underqualified (BA, CELTA, plus experience) and there is under-under qualified....

I have not taught in Saudi; I follow this board because I teach Saudis outside of their natural habitat. I have friends and acquaintances who have spent time working in the Magic Kingdom.
From what I know about the region, I agree with others that you'd be better off to look elsewhere. This just isn't the place to start out with what you've got, particularly in light of the fact that you've got a family.

[BretHarte]

You can lie on your application about the years of experience you've had. That seems common enough. Add a degree or two, as well. If you're Canadian, that might be the problem. Everyone knows about the love/hate for Americans. As far as I know, there isn't a problem with Guyanans.

If you get an entry level job in The Magic Kingdom, you can't say you weren't warned about working here. It's indentured servitude for the best of us, and you follow the whims of your masters as far as receiving an exit visa. Most of the time, that's not a problem. Until it is. Don't forget the Kool-Aid. That might be the easiest way out.

[JerkyBoy]