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imderek2



Joined: 23 Feb 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Pictures with resumes Reply with quote

Is it common practice to attach a passport sized photo of yourself to your resume when applying for English teaching jobs in China and the rest of Asia, even when the employer doesn't ask for a picture?

I've been sending out my resume and cover letter to some places without a picture and was wondering if I was doing it wrong.

If I send my resume and cover letter as a pdf file, should I add the pic in the pdf or make a seperate attachment of the photo with my email.
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

common practice is to send scanned copies of your degree(s) to
confirm your educational background, and a scanned copy of
your passport to confirm you meet the melanin standard.
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't ever included a separate photo. My photo is on my passport and I send them a color scan of that which should suffice. I know some teachers that include "action shots" of them in their "natural habitat" back home which is a little ridiculous I think.

I've also NEVER brought my actual diploma anywhere. I use a color scan of that as well and if it isn't enough for them (i've never had that problem) then well, they're out of luck because it's safe at home in America. Why would you carry around your actual diploma?
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imderek2



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, well I'm not in China, I'm still in the US and sending my resume and cover letter by email to some schools that are posting jobs.

It seems a bit much to send in a scan of my degree and passport at the same time i send them my resume. I mean it seems to be setting myself for identity theft!

I can understand sending a scan if my passport and my degree if they show interest and ask for it for an interview, but seems soon with only my resume.
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danasoverseasemail



Joined: 08 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xiguagua wrote:
Why would you carry around your actual diploma?


Because without having a certified copy of your original you are unable to quickly support or defend any claims of fraud. Why would you be incapable of bringing along your actual diploma? Unwilling or unable to show the "proof" of a genuine degree/diploma? Is your actual diploma acting as life-support for some distant relative in the hospital? It's a piece of paper that provides no advantage in life by leaving it at home. It's a piece of paper. What's the issue? I've carried all my university degrees for around for more than 8 years now and they are in nothing other than new-condition.

Where is the emoticon for shaking my head in a confusion of ridiculousness?
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The medical exam form that one is usually required to send with his application for his visa requires a head shot to be attached.
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would attach a picture to the resume, but when I applied I didn't send off the passport scans/diploma stuff until contacted.

Worth noting that in China, most people attach a photograph to their CV so it is probably expected.

I don't know if 'action shots' or pictures of you doing a sport, or in a classroom or with young people would help or hinder an application. But most places will want to know what you look like so you don't lose much by sending a photograph (or inserting one into your CV).
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xiguagua wrote:
Why would you carry around your actual diploma?


You could ask schools in Thailand, Taiwan, Japan, the unnamable country that likes kimchi, Singapore... just as a start.

'Prolly same reason. So I have to agree with danasoverseasemail on this.

As for photos, just follow the application package.
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MNguy



Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe someone's parents framed their diploma and think it's a really special piece of paper. You can get another one if you contact your Uni and send them $20.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I send a recent head shot with my resume and other docs. I'm not sure it matters much if you do or don't unless you're really hot - or not.

I brought my original degrees with me. Again, I don't think it matters a whole lot if you do or don't. I have .jpgs of my degrees and that seems to be all I need.
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:


I brought my original degrees with me. Again, I don't think it matters a whole lot if you do or don't. I have .jpgs of my degrees and that seems to be all I need.


Agree. Same reason I don't carry around my actual birth certificate, SSN, sure if you lose it you can get it replaced......with a lot of hassle, or you can just have a photocopy which serves as the same thing. If it's "just a piece of paper" then it shouldn't matter if I have a photocopy or the "ordinary piece of paper" So that logic fails. Rolling Eyes In terms of authenticity, one can just as easily fake a piece of paper as they can digitally. I've never been asked to produce my diploma, the photocopy got it done just as well.

Not to discredit those who have had the opposite experience as me as their experiences are just as valid as mine.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Protect your identity by taping over the number of your passport and maybe your middle name before scanning.
As to lifestyle photos remember, in the initial application you are NOT competing against the job description, but against the other applicants.
A lifestyle photo fleshes you out and gives a welcome edge over other more coy types. 'Ridiculous' it is not!
I worked many years as a recruiter and have written two books on job seeking.
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand what a lifestyle photo is.

What do they want? A picture of you playing tennis? Eating pizza and drinking a pitcher of beer? Cooking breakfast or feeding your goldfish? Lounging about in your Lower-Manhattan penthouse with a couple of breezy girls? A picture of you kissing a baby? A picture of you not holding hands with someone of the same sex?

I worked as a commercial photographer for awhile in the '90's and I photographed a couple of naturist (nudist) weddings. That's sort of thing that I'd consider a "lifestyle photo".
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any or all of those situations MilesSmiles Very Happy
Should be full length ie standing.
If you have China teaching exp something with students.
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some advise the more 'mature' teachers, those approaching or
slightly over the school/province age limit, to attach lifestyle
photos.

pictures showing that the ft is not a decrepit old geezer and
probably won't die during the first week of classes. something
showing how fit and active they are, despite their age.
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