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What do you do when your teenage students play truant??
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ibasiram



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: What do you do when your teenage students play truant?? Reply with quote

It'a actually happened a few times where I work.. one day, it was the 'first day of spring' (There is a day at the end of March in Poland oficially when spring starts, and students try not to go to school..) and no students at all came to one of the teacher's classes....... the school did nothing about it....because it was the first day of spring....
What do you / does your school do when your teenagers don't show up for class??
Just wondering,
Ibasiram.
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Steiner



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go home.

When my dad was in high school, the school let them skip the first day of hunting season.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you / does your school do when your teenagers don't show up for class??
Just wondering,
Ibasiram


As per university policy, unless they bring in an acceptable written excuse within 3 days, I mark them absent. Again, as per university policy, unless students attend at least 80% of the classes, they aren't allowed to take the final exam. Excused absences don't count towards the 20% of absences.

We do have quite a few teenagers in our program, including university students who haven't turned 20 yet. Also, because it's a public university, anyone who has completed secundaria (junior high school) can enroll in our program. We get quite a few high school students.

It's not all that common, but there are times when nobody shows up for a class (or maybe 2 or 3 show up out of 20 in a class.) If that happens, it's usually on the last day of classes before a long holiday break.

Even way back in the Dark Ages when I was in high school, we had a Senior Skip Day in the spring. So did every high school where I taught in the USA, now that I think about it.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my school, if the student is truant more than 30% of the classes, the student is not given the certificate.
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Boy Wonder



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: R&R Reply with quote

When my teenage students don't show up, I breathe a huge sigh of relief, put my feet up and carry on with the more important business of completing the Herald & Tribune crossword!
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XXX



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids are going to cut class when the weather gets nice everywhere. Don't beat your head against the wall unless it gets out of hand. If it does, come down hard on them. Call their parents!

Where I teach, the opening day of hunting season is a holiday.
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rj



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XXX wrote:

Where I teach, the opening day of hunting season is a holiday.


Where I live the whole first week of hunting season is a holiday! lol
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khmerhit



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, i gotta get out of this city.
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Aramas



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As per university policy, unless they bring in an acceptable written excuse within 3 days, I mark them absent. Again, as per university policy, unless students attend at least 80% of the classes, they aren't allowed to take the final exam.

What kind of weird uni is that? That should be illegal. Marking attendance at uni? Do they have wear uniforms and call the 'teachers' sir?

My record is attending one lecture in an entire semester - and I got a Distinction for that subject.
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Shaman



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't teach teenagers anymore, but I remember being one. Missing one day of school amounts to a hill of beans really, doesn't it? If it impacts on the teacher's salary, that's another matter. Still, one little indiscretion shouldn't be cause for one to even bat an eye, IMHO.

Shaman
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually have the policy everyone gets one day to miss classes...no need for excuse. If there is a continual problem, the best solution is to have the school bring the parent sin for a conference about their child. Works extremely well in China.

I have a Friday afternoon class in China. I told them we will have the class when possible on Thursday night. Couldn't have it this Thursday night, but the whole class had volunteered to do some local work Friday afternoon. I told them, that's better then going to my class, go do the volunteer stuff.
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Don't know what will happen if my school finds out.
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ibasiram



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess bringing in the parents would be a good idea..we often have to do that with discipline problems and it works wonders for a few weeks because you can actually see the terror in the student's eye..
I wanted to call in the parents too after that first day of spring debacle, but the school wouldn't hear of it..but we sternly warned them ...next time... and that hasn't come yet Exclamation
Actually on another issue...I've got an angry parent coming to me today because her daughter ( who apparently was very sick) has been playing truant recently..
Ibasiram.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What kind of weird uni is that? That should be illegal. Marking attendance at uni? Do they have wear uniforms and call the 'teachers' sir?


All Saudi universties take attendance and students fail if they miss more than a certain proportion of classes.

To the best of my knowledge attendance at a certain amount of lectures is compulsory in most universities everywhere. At Oxford and Cambridge lectures are voluntary (sleeping in town isn't) but they are the only two in the UK I think.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramas,
you are being dangerously judgmental in your post; in my university we expat teachers were never told to monitor attendance, yet I know fthrough enquiries that there are official student lists (printed in CHinese) where CHinese teachers enter "absent" or "present"...
This goes to show how ridiculous the situation in China is: we expats are not instructed to take care of their discipline, though we are the first target of criticism if we are late.
Anyway, I printed out my own attendance sheets. Students had to enter their names in Roman letters; I even had to teach them how to write their names that way...
The most remarkable thing is that these kids come to classes that are designed for secondary class students (by my standards). They can't take notes - never learnt that, always depending on teachers handing out photocopies or rteferring to pages in books.
I give them assignments - they seldom do homework (with notable exceptions). Why? Truants? Not necessarily - just not used to being responsible for themselves!
That's why I require them to present a formal excuse in writing for being absent from my classes.
You know what?
Suddenly, I got papers with a red chop from some office, confirming that such and such will be missing in my class for this or that reason...
Apparently, the CHinese universities do require Chinese students to attend every lesson!

I found not a few that have invalid reasons for not coming to class - unashamedly telling me "I overslept" or "I was not in my dorm"...

And recently, I was handed a list of students in my classes... in Chinese. I am expected to enter their grades in exams at the end of this term!
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reminder Reply with quote

Maybe remind them that they can't get a good final grade for the course if they miss too many classes, regardless of the exam grade. Can you do that? I'm forced to make the final 60% of the grade ( Evil or Very Mad ), but that leaves in-class work for the other 40%. Lately a lot of people have been absent, so I reminded students that missing class would lower their mark for that portion of the grade.
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