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		| riyadh1974 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Headway - English in a foreign accent |   |  
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				| As much as I like the Headway series, I find it really annoying that for a large number of the dialogues non-native English speakers are used! Isn't the point to get students used to British accents? It's like using non-native Arabs, with bad English accents, to read the dialogues in an Arabic language for foreigners text book! 
 Mr and Mrs Soars, sort it out!
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		| 2buckets 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Diversity culture. 
 Will be the end of Western Culture.
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		| hieroglyphs 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| It seems likely that most of the people who learn English as a second language will more often speak the language to a non-native speaker. Given that, I think it makes sense to expose students to non-native accents. |  | 
	
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: Headway - English in a foreign accent |   |  
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	  | riyadh1974 wrote: |  
	  | As much as I like the Headway series, |  Ugh... I hated the Headway series...
  Though I hear that they finally developed a Middle East version that wasn't such a cultural nightmare... 
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		| 2buckets 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| cultural nightmare... 
 Right.
 
 It seemed like student life in the UK was partying, pubbing and drinking.
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ... arranging dates... picking up women... ordering wine...   
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		| PattyFlipper 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A picture of a huge bottle of booze or a plate of ham sandwiches on every other page, not to mention articles about holidays in Israel.  |  | 
	
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		| It's Scary! 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | hieroglyphs wrote: |  
	  | It seems likely that most of the people who learn English as a second language will more often speak the language to a non-native speaker. Given that, I think it makes sense to expose students to non-native accents. |  
 ...and all the mispronunciation, faulty stresses and farcical grammar "rules" that go with it!
   
 It's a constant linguistic/phonological battle with "their" former students!
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I care less about the accents in the recordings than about how fake, stilted, and uncontextualised the discourse in them is.  I've never heard a good one, honestly. |  | 
	
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