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May spend from my savings on CELTA, but what are my chances?

 
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Spirit



Joined: 22 Feb 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: May spend from my savings on CELTA, but what are my chances? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I'm seriously considering to teach English abroad. These days I'm using my savings from a previous job to pay for things plus doing some Arabic tutoring to English speakers (as I'm fluent in both languages), and may consider to start English tutoring to Arabic speakers to improve my income a bit. I would love to take CELTA, but there is no official certification of it in my home country (it's a small country), so I'm considering to do it in Egypt or Poland. But before I spend a significant amount of money I need to make sure if I am investing in the right thing at the right time. Some info:

1. I went to high school and university at English speaking countries (UK and US -- a total of 7 years living in both countries)
2. I have a BA in political science
3. I do not hold a passport from an English speaking country.
4. My experience in tutoring Arabic to speakers of English is less than 6 months, but I have other types of experience in different areas (not related directly to education).

It may sound a a bit cliche and one-liner, but I see myself as a citizen of the world: I really do not mind teaching anywhere but I just want to keep going forward in life. I did some research and it seems some places require a lot of teaching experience, others REALLY emphasize that they need a native speaker who is also of white ethnicity/skin color (I was a bit shocked to read about it, but this is the sad reality I have to deal with I guess).

Do I have a good chance at some parts of the world to have a good start?

I value any help or insights.

-Spirit
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom line: It all depends on your country of passport. That will be the key factor in employment abroad.

Without knowing what your country of passport is it will be impossible to give accurate advice.

In general however you can rule out any decent paying positions in the majority of Asia; either visa not possible or poor paying positions since you are not considered a "native speaker" regardless of how good you think you may or may not be.
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 3292
Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search for 'NNS' (non-native speaker) and check any that from their titles would seem the more useful among the 72 resulting threads. They may well help give you some pointers.
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sainthood



Joined: 15 Nov 2010
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Option 3 - move to a NS English country, stay there the required time, become a citizen, get a new passport!
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Option 3 - move to a NS English country, stay there the required time, become a citizen, get a new passport!


If it were only so easy!

'Move there and stay there' equals quite a range of requirements, paperwork, etc etc., which may or may not be do-able.

'Become a citizen' also carries responsibilities, which may include but not be limited to becoming proficient in the local language, having family or economic ties in the new country, performing military service there, etc, etc.

'Get a new passport' may or may not require giving up ones' old one. And after all this is accomplished, better be absolutely sure that you're ok with all the rules and structure in 'your' new country in terms of taxes, social obligations and benefits and etc etc.
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Andrew Jordan



Joined: 25 Sep 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible, although you are limited in your options. I knew a few teachers in South America who were from non-english (and non-South American) countries and found jobs.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know quite a few experienced Russian teachers of English who teach in China.
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fieldsofbarley



Joined: 12 Nov 2010
Posts: 47
Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP:

I'd say go for it. You don't need to have a certain passport if you're very good at what you do and keep upgrading your knowledge and skills. I was in a similar situation to yours a few years ago and I don't regret using my savings to pay for the CELTA. Of course I didn't stop at the CELTA, but I don't feel limited as to what countries I can teach in (I know my chances are 0 in Korea, Japan and Taiwan, but I'm not interested in going there anyway). If anything, my choices are too many!

Best of luck![/u]
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