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Classroom management in KSA an ordeal?

 
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Paris teacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:29 pm    Post subject: Classroom management in KSA an ordeal? Reply with quote

I have heard that classroom management is very difficult in KSA, even for very experienced teachers. Is teaching males at university similar to teaching early adolescents in an American high school or junior high school?
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2buckets



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Is teaching males at university similar to teaching early adolescents in an American high school or junior high school?"

Could be worse. You rarely get support from management, who are usually from other Arab countries and don't want to jeopardise their jobs by supporting you against the students. You are on your own.

Oh, I suggest you get a mobile phone "blocker" to eliminate the constant distraction of phone use.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The males I taught in Abha were on the same level as Thai high school students. I would rather teach Thai high school students.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concur. It is (generally) QUITE the ordeal, indeed!
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EnglishLanguageOne



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Classroom management in KSA an ordeal? Reply with quote

Paris teacher wrote:
I have heard that classroom management is very difficult in KSA, even for very experienced teachers. Is teaching males at university similar to teaching early adolescents in an American high school or junior high school?


All depends on the gig. If in a decent university its not bad, but if the students are there because they are forced by the government or army or national guard then it is a horror story.
Saudi students with zero interest in learning English are very difficult to teach they will generally make clear their distaste for you and the language you are forcing on them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are three different types of students when you teach at government run organizations. Students who are there because they get a nice government stipend with which they can use to buy a car or something else. Students that are there to learn how to speak English, those students average about 4 out of a classroom of 24 students. Last but not least, the students that want whatever certificate is given because they advance just from the certificate alone. There are places, very rare, where all of the students are professional, very rare indeed, I taught at one of those places.
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