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isitts
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 Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:29 am Post subject: Need proof of employment but all my teachers have left... |
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I'm applying for a public school in...a neighboring country not to be mentioned on this forum, and they need a document from the school I worked at in Japan that states I actually worked there for two years.
When I needed this document two years ago, it was fine as two of my English co-teachers still worked at the school (this is a public high school I worked at in JET). I just called and explained what I needed and why. It was a bit tedious, but at least they knew who I was.
Now, those teachers (the last two that knew me) are gone and it seems I might need this document again.
Is there an easier way to go about getting a written document confirming my former employment with this school than calling the school directly where no one knows me and trying not only to explain who I am, but also what I need from them? |
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It's Scary!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm...Japan HAS no "neighboring" countries. It is an insular nation. However, it does have neighbors nearby. But, I'm sure that as a former-JET, you had your suspicions.
That being said, you should have asked for and received a Certificate of Employment before you left from your employing BoE.
But then, hindsight is always Dave's ESLCafe.
It's the hard truth, but the truth, nonetheless. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| It's Scary! wrote: |
Ummm...Japan HAS no "neighboring" countries. It is an insular nation. However, it does have neighbors nearby. But, I'm sure that as a former-JET, you had your suspicions.
That being said, you should have asked for and received a Certificate of Employment before you left from your employing BoE.
But then, hindsight is always Dave's ESLCafe.
It's the hard truth, but the truth, nonetheless. |
I think if you look at a map you'll find that Korea is quite near Japan.
How would I know to ask for something that I didn't know existed and would be necessary 4 years later? All the same I was able to get a letter proving my employment when I called the school.
Even if I'd gotten the certificate you're talking about for the job I'd gotten two years ago, it wouldn't have helped me much now, unless I'd thought at the time about getting enough copies to last me for all future jobs I might ever have that needed proof I worked in Japan.
Your post doesn't answer my question. |
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mc
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| This doesn't answer your question either, but is something to keep in mind for the future. The way you make a single document "last" for all your employment needs henceforth is to scan it and keep a digital copy on your computer, flash drive, etc. Then you can simply print it out or email it whenever you apply for a new job. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, mc.
It looks like I'll be ok. The last school I worked at in K-land has a copy of the letter I got from my Japanese school two years ago. And after I put another year in at my next job, I'll have 3 years of documentation from my schools in Korea. Most contracts I've seen in the EFL field don't seem to require more than 2-3 years experience for a higher pay grade.
But, yeah, this time around I'll take you advice. Thank you! |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Rather than relying on teachers who you worked with, have you considered contacting your actual employer? If it was the school itself, they will have a record. If it was the BOE or CLAIR or a dispatch agency, they are the ones to go to. |
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It's Scary!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I think if you look at a map you'll find that Korea is quite near Japan. |
Thank you for your smug response, OP. My point was that you don't know the difference between neighboring and neighbors/neighborhood.
Point taken, tho. I've clearly been lectured from someone who hasn't got the wherewithal to know that they go to their employer for a Letter of Employment ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
It's a basic employee's right! |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| Rather than relying on teachers who you worked with, have you considered contacting your actual employer? If it was the school itself, they will have a record. If it was the BOE or CLAIR or a dispatch agency, they are the ones to go to. |
Sorry for the belated response. The school was my employer. I already know that. My question wasn't about who my employer was, I was wondering what I ask for (like, what is the document called in Japanese) and/or how I go about asking for it if no one there knows me anymore. Yes, I imagine they have a record of me but how do they verify that it is in fact me asking for the document if I'm just calling them on the phone?
Anyway, it's no big deal. As I said, my previous school had a copy of the letter from my Japanese school, so I got the documentation I needed.
Thank you, though. Your post was helpful. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| It's Scary! wrote: |
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| I think if you look at a map you'll find that Korea is quite near Japan. |
Thank you for your smug response, OP. My point was that you don't know the difference between neighboring and neighbors/neighborhood.
Point taken, tho. I've clearly been lectured from someone who hasn't got the wherewithal to know that they go to their employer for a Letter of Employment ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
It's a basic employee's right! |
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Go back and look at what I asked. |
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G Cthulhu
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| isitts wrote: |
My question wasn't about who my employer was, I was wondering what I ask for (like, what is the document called in Japanese) and/or how I go about asking for it if no one there knows me anymore. Yes, I imagine they have a record of me but how do they verify that it is in fact me asking for the document if I'm just calling them on the phone?
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You ask the school office, or if you were Municipal you ask the BOE. It doesn't actually matter who asks - your employment was a matter of public record so anyone is entitled ask for the certificate. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
| isitts wrote: |
My question wasn't about who my employer was, I was wondering what I ask for (like, what is the document called in Japanese) and/or how I go about asking for it if no one there knows me anymore. Yes, I imagine they have a record of me but how do they verify that it is in fact me asking for the document if I'm just calling them on the phone?
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You ask the school office, or if you were Municipal you ask the BOE. It doesn't actually matter who asks - your employment was a matter of public record so anyone is entitled ask for the certificate. |
Thanks, Cthulhu.
[edit]: Do you know what the document is called in Japanese?
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| It's Scary! wrote: |
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| I think if you look at a map you'll find that Korea is quite near Japan. |
Thank you for your smug response, OP. My point was that you don't know the difference between neighboring and neighbors/neighborhood. |
Neighbor is a noun and neighboring is an adjective. I think you're assuming neighboring necessarily means adjacent. It doesn't. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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The document you seek is commonly called a letter of release. It might be translated from Japanese as certificate of retirement.
The Japanese is taishoku-shomeisho 退職証明書
Can we stop the petty comments re: neighbor and neighboring? Stay on topic, folks. |
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isitts
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
The document you seek is commonly called a letter of release. It might be translated from Japanese as certificate of retirement.
The Japanese is taishoku-shomeisho 退職証明書
Can we stop the petty comments re: neighbor and neighboring? Stay on topic, folks. |
Thanks, again, Glenski. |
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