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ShadowCat17



Joined: 30 Nov 2010
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Location: Salvador-BA, Brasil

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: 34 hours in class, 68 hours online Reply with quote

Hi folks!

I'm teaching a beginner English course at a university in Brazil, and we're using the Cambridge Touchstone materials.

The course is set up so that the students have two 1-hour classes a week, and they're supposed to spend 4 hours a week (!!!) doing online exercises in Cambridge's online learning website.

Problem: I'm having a hard time motivating the students to invest this online time. It is absolutely necessary for the course - first of all, it's part of their grade, and second, the course is "accelerated" so if they don't do the online work, they WILL fall behind. This is especially essential at the beginner level.

I do speak Portuguese so I've explained all this to them in their native language... but so far only 1 out of 16 students has put in any online time (we're 3 weeks into the semester).

I'm thinking of taking the entire class to the computer lab next week and saying "class today will be an hour of doing the online exercises, so y'all can familiarize yourselves with the system and ask me any questions if you have trouble."

I'd love to hear ideas or suggestions from some more experienced teachers on this.

Thanks in advance!
Shayna
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Teacher in Rome



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, my sympathies! I've seen it time and again on blended learning courses, where students attend the face-to-face lessons (or online class) but don't put in the hours doing the other work.

I think your idea of taking them into the lab to get them familiarised is great. It could be that they're not sure about how to do the exercises, or even need help with passwords / access / how to do the exercises etc. Sometimes students need a bit of hand-holding and giving them a start-up session should be part of their preparation to the course.

In the end, we built tasks around the online learning that meant the students had to go to the site and do the exercises before they could do the tasks. You could build marking / testing into this: i.e. only the students who had achieved a certain pass / accessed a particular % could do the tasks that counted towards their final mark. A lot of work for you, but it might help integrate the two better. (Obviously you'll need the tools that show you which students have done what. Programs such as Tell me More give you this - not sure about the Cambridge one.)

Good luck!
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCat17 wrote:
I'm thinking of taking the entire class to the computer lab next week and saying "class today will be an hour of doing the online exercises, so y'all can familiarize yourselves with the system and ask me any questions if you have trouble."

The students should have been taken to the lab to be introduced to the online learning program and allowed to practice some of the exercises when the course first started. As teachers, we should never assume they have the skills and/or knowledge required for performing certain tasks, including comprehending simple instructions to a game or other learning activity. We always need to check their understanding.

What you perceive as a lack of motivation might really be a lack of confidence or uncertainty on their part because they don't understand what they're required to do, or they feel they don't have the computer skills needed to complete the work. In fact, online learning may be new to them. For some, avoidance is better than admitting they don't know how to do something. By taking them into the lab and showing them the system and letting them practice with you there, you're able to lend encouragement and help those who are struggling. Plus, they'll be more comfortable asking for help in the future because they see you're vested in their learning.

This type of online learning component is invaluable. When students become autonomous learners (e.g., taking ownership of their own learning), they tend to be more motivated and confident in their language learning and do better overall.
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ShadowCat17



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher in Rome and nomad soul, you were COMPLETELY right!

I took them into the lab today and discovered that:

1) Differently from the sign-up process for teachers, the sign-up process for students actually involves 3 stages with 8-10 steps each... which is made worse by the fact that the website is all in English, not intuitive, and my students are absolute beginners.

2) Whereas a few of the guys in the class are of the "I'll just click around and figure things out" mentality, the majority of the women, particularly, are tentative and nervous about clicking the wrong thing or doing the wrong activity. They need very specific instructions and a lot of encouragement!

I think I may schedule several more computer sessions over the course of the semester...

Lesson learned Smile
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that you should have gotten them together to register with you, so that you know there are not problems in that respect.

Now that they are all registered, it is a matter of how motivated they feel. I'm in Japan and face uni students with very low motivation towards homework.

    * If you can't track what each student does on that Cambridge software (and I suspect you can't), then you have your hands full.
    * You probably can't take them into the computer room during the week to fulfill that 4-hour requirement (try to do once, though, and see what happens).
    * Present some sort of update weekly -- no names, but a progress chart with each student's scores -- and talk about it for 2 minutes. Open the floor for questions in case they have problems understanding the site.
    * Ask Cambridge for any advice???
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) Differently from the sign-up process for teachers, the sign-up process for students actually involves 3 stages with 8-10 steps each... which is made worse by the fact that the website is all in English, not intuitive, and my students are absolute beginners.


You really have to wonder, don't you...

It's not only that the whole thing is in English (no instructions at all in other languages for complete beginners?) but the sheer amount of hoop-jumping users have to go through to do a simple thing such as a sign-up. What the online course designers were thinking of, I really don't know!

Anyway, thanks for the follow-up. Hope things get a bit easier for you!
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sharter



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: lol Reply with quote

Blended learning......Kaplan should read this........depends on students actually giving a hoot.

Achilles' Heel or what?
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ShadowCat17



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:

Now that they are all registered, it is a matter of how motivated they feel. I'm in Japan and face uni students with very low motivation towards homework.


Actually, I can track their progress on a quite detailed level - including how much time they spent, what exercises they did, and what they got right or wrong!

The problem I perceive is more of a paradigm shift. Online interactive learning is a rather new concept... so when the students think "homework," they're thinking "I need to complete a written exercise in a workbook," not "I need to log onto a website and drag and drop verbs into the correct places in a conversation."

Also, the interface is not difficult to use, but nor is it super easy - especially if one has only a basic level of computer literacy. Makes it kind of tough because that means I need to teach them the "system" in addition to teaching the actual language.

I like your suggestion of a weekly update - perhaps I could institute some sort of small prize for the top 3 who put in the most time each month.

I'm trying to motivate them by focusing on the positive - pointing out how much faster their English will improve if they put in the online time, and how many doors that'll open in terms of travel, study, and employment opportunities - Rather than saying "DO YOUR HOMEWORK OR YOU'LL FAIL!!!" - also true, but not as helpful Shocked
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