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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Everything you know about curriculum may be wrong. Really. Reply with quote

"What if the earth moves and the sun is at rest? What if gravity is just a special case of space-time? Following both counter-intuitive premises revolutionized science and ushered in the modern world. Could a similar counter-intuitive thought experiment advance education from where I believe we are currently stuck? I believe so.

The educational thought experiment I wish to undertake concerns curriculum. Not the specific content of curriculum, but the idea of curriculum, what any curriculum is, regardless of subject. Like Copernicus, I propose that for the sake of better results we need to turn conventional wisdom on it is head: let�s see what results if we think of action, not knowledge, as the essence of an education; let�s see what results from thinking of future ability, not knowledge of the past, as the core; let�s see what follows, therefore, from thinking of content knowledge as neither the aim of curriculum nor the key building blocks of it but as the offshoot of learning to do things now and for the future.

In our own era, this may seem to some as nutty as Copernicus� idea must have seemed. For over a thousand years a formal curriculum has been conceived of as an organized and logically-sequenced march from the basics to advanced knowledge. Well, of course: whether we are Professors of Physics or third-grade teachers, when we develop a syllabus and lessons we consider the most important topics, and we then devise a sequence by which they are ordered and addressed via instruction. By this means we parcel out learning in clear and logically-sequenced elements. We design backward from human knowledge, in other words, and we sequence knowledge in ways that suit the learner�s prior and current knowledge. What else could a curriculum be?

Well, this works fine if the present is just like the past; if ideas turn into competent action automatically; and if theory, not effects, matters most. Alas, each notion stopped being thought of as true in the time of Copernicus. That�s why folks like Comenius, Rousseau, Spencer, Dewey, Bruner, and Toffler have been arguing for fundamental change over the last 300 years � not in the �content� but in the very meaning of education and thus curriculum.

So, suppose knowledge is not the goal of education. Rather, suppose today�s content knowledge is an offshoot of successful ongoing learning in a changing world � in which �learning� means �learning to perform in the world.�

As odd as that might sound for academics, it makes perfect sense in our everyday lives. The point of child-rearing, cooking, teaching, soccer, music, business, or architecture is not �knowledge�; rather, knowledge is the growing (and ever-changing) residue of the main activity of trying to perform well for real.

In athletics this is very clear: the game is the curriculum; the game is the teacher. And each game is different (even as helpful patterns emerge). Knowledge about the game is secondary, an offshoot of learning to play the game well. As I learn to play, knowledge � about rules, strategy, and technique � accrues, but it is not the point.

So, it would be very foolish to learn soccer (or child-rearing or music or how to cook) in lectures. This reverses cause and effect, and loses sight of purpose. Could it be the same for history, math, and science learning? Only blind habit keeps us from exploring this obvious logic. The point is to do new things with content, not simply know what others know � in any field.

The Copernican hypothesis eventually made sense because it did two things: made better sense of the data, and dealt with increasingly embarrassing anomalies in the Ptolemaic view. Similarly for my theory: thinking of knowledge as an offshoot and performance as primary helps us make sense of current oddities and failures in schooling. For example, boredom is rampant in schools; perhaps it is the inevitable result of focusing on knowledge instead of performance (which is inherently more engaging). Forgetfulness is constant: students rarely recall what was taught a few weeks ago. How can content move from short-term to long-term memory if there is always more content to memorize tomorrow? And test results reveal over and over that few students can transfer learning to new challenges and overcome basic misconceptions. What do these unending �discrepant phenomena� tell us�if we would only attend to them?

Video games are especially startling from the perspective of conventional views of curriculum and instruction. According to the standard view, I should never be able to learn and greatly improve at the games since there is no formal and explicit curriculum framed by knowledge, and � even more puzzling � no one teaches me anything! I shouldn�t learn but I do. In games (and in life), I begin with performance challenges, not technical knowledge. I receive no upfront teaching (or even manuals any more in games and other software!) but I learn based on the attempts to perform and feedback from trying � just as I did when learning to walk or hold a spoon. How is that possible? Conventional views of curriculum and instruction have no good explanation for it.

So, perhaps our �crazy� thought experiment has promise.

What else might follow from thinking of performance, not knowledge, as the aim of education? We might finally realize the absurdity of marching through textbooks. You want to learn English or be a historian? You would think it very foolish if I said: OK, sit down and let�s march for years through a dictionary or an encyclopedia, A to Z. Yet, that is basically what textbooks do: march through content, logically organized. Want to learn to cook? Read the Joy of Cooking all the way through its 700+ pages � before ever setting foot in a kitchen??? Yet, this is what we do and have always done in conventional textbook and lecture-driven schooling. It is also absurd to teach novices lots of technical jargon upfront, as if that will somehow have meaning and stick for later use. Yet, from Friday vocab. quizzes to almost all tests terminology is an absurdly major focus. We must only still do it, like medieval monks, if at some level we still think that giving things names and possessing plus appreciating (eternal?) knowledge is the point of education.

Beyond these examples of transformed curriculum, there are other reasons for declaring that all conventional curriculum-writing is badly misguided and is doomed to fail the moment we frame it backward from topics and content instead of performance. The following questions are suggestive:

If curriculum is a tour through what is known, how is knowledge ever advanced?
If learning requires a didactic march through content, why are movies and stories so memorable � often, more memorable than classes we once took?
If a primary goal of education is high-level performance in the world going forward, how can marching through old knowledge out of context optimally prepare us to perform?
If education is about having core knowledge, and we are more and more teaching and testing all this knowledge, why are results on tests like NAEP so universally poor, showing that over decades American students have not progressed much beyond basic �plug and chug�?
A revealing shift in the winds has in fact occurred in our era in professional education. In medicine, engineering, business, and law courses are no longer built backward from content. They are built backward from key performances and problems in the fields. Problem-based learning and the case method not only challenge the conventional paradigm but suggest that K-12 education is increasingly out of touch with genuine trends for the better in education.

The thought experiment I propose is not new, as suggested by the reference to Dewey and to the case method in law � both over 100 years old. As in the history of science, this idea of designing backward from the ability to use content well for worthy present and future purposes has lurked under the surface or in pockets of the medieval paradigm that still dominates curriculum for centuries. All one has to do is read Plato�s �Allegory of the Cave� and the Dialogues more generally, Kant�s criticism of conventional education, Rousseau�s Emile, Hegel�s Phenomenology, dozens of books from the Progressive era in the 1920s � 30s, Piaget on what mental growth demands educationally, Bruner�s Process of Education, the recent book Shop Class As Soulcraft, as well as current research on student misconceptions and their persistence to see perpetual papered-over weaknesses in the standard view and the promise in alternate conceptions.

Back to Tyler, everyone. A key person in the Progressive era was Ralph Tyler, the Director of Research for what came to be called the 8-Year Study � a major investigation, funded by the Carnegie Foundation, into the effects of progressive education. Tyler went on a few years later to write the modern classic text on curriculum-framing (based on his work as Director of Evaluation for the 8-Year Study) entitled The Basic Principles of Curriculum and Instruction. Yet, in spite of the book�s success � it is still widely read in graduate courses � Tyler�s rejection of the standard view of curriculum continues to be ignored.

He was quite blunt about the error of conventional curriculum: �it is clear that a statement of objectives in terms of content headings�is not a satisfactory basis for guiding the further development of the curriculum.� The critique resulted from a premise about the aim of education (since curriculum is the formal path by which we achieve our educational aims). What is the aim of any curriculum? According to Tyler, the general aim is �to bring about significant changes in students� patterns of behavior.� In other words, though we often lose sight of this basic fact, the point of learning is not just to know things but to be a different person � more mature, more wise, more self-disciplined, more effective, and more productive in the broadest sense. Knowledge is an indicator of educational success, not the aim. Thus, the conventional view of curriculum and the process of conventional curriculum writing must be wrong:

�The purpose of a statement of objectives is to indicate the kinds of changes in the student to be brought about so that the instructional activities can be planned and developed in a way likely to attain these objectives; that is to bring about these changes in students. Hence it is clear that a statement of objectives in terms of content headings�is not a satisfactory basis for guiding the further development of the curriculum. The most useful form for stating objectives is to express them in terms which identify both the kind of behavior to be developed in the student and the � area of life which this behavior is to operate.� pp. 45-7.

So, let�s re-consider Tyler�s claim. Let�s follow the logic, since it holds out some promise of solving vexing and persistent problems of boredom and ineffectiveness that we see daily."

http://grantwiggins.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/everything-you-know-about-curriculum-may-be-wrong-really/

So, any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methods and curriculum fall in and out of favour all the time. What was that one where the teacher isn't supposed to talk at all during a lesson? Or just stand outside the circle?

My personal belief is that people aren't getting smarter, but more reliant on technology. So much that they need it in order to feel good about themselves and can't think without it. I just saw a post on Facebook, "I have so many clothes. What can I do with them?" Seriously? Donate, sell, give away, store, etc them. What was worse is that there were over 20 responses.

Like learning soccer in the classroom, somethings learnt in schools aren't practical or appropriate (train A travels at X speed, train B at Y, when do they meet? For a few people, this might help them with jobs. But I can tell you that I've never used this and I did countless problems like this). Reading about it doesn't help. Doing does. I can learn about swimming and read every book, but until I get into the pool, I still can't swim.

About movies and stories, I just went to a workshop about it. The guy told a story at the beginning, talked for about an hour, and asked what we remembered. The vast majority didn't really know what he talked about, but we remembered the story!

AS much as we talk about problem solving and task based learning, while I was at school at least, a lot of it was just regurgitating info. That's how our teachers may have learnt, so that's how they taught. It's a vicious circle.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear naturegirl321,

I agree - "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." Albert Einstein.

And while I'm sure many will consider me a hopeless idealist (not bad, though, still being an idealist at almost 70), I totally agree with this sentence from the article.

"In other words, though we often lose sight of this basic fact, the point of learning is not just to know things but to be a different person � more mature, more wise, more self-disciplined, more effective, and more productive in the broadest sense."

The students that we've taught, the whose lives we've made a difference in, we've taught more than English.

I know that was the case with all the great teachers I had that I can so easily recall decades later.

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John
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted logic in almost every sentence. Probably make a bestseller list.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Glenski,

"Twisted logic in almost every sentence."

Thanks for that in-depth, insightful analysis.

"Probably make a bestseller list."

So, do you plan to wait for the movie?

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John
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear naturegirl321,

I agree - "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." Albert Einstein.

And while I'm sure many will consider me a hopeless idealist (not bad, though, still being an idealist at almost 70), I totally agree with this sentence from the article.

"In other words, though we often lose sight of this basic fact, the point of learning is not just to know things but to be a different person � more mature, more wise, more self-disciplined, more effective, and more productive in the broadest sense."

The students that we've taught, the whose lives we've made a difference in, we've taught more than English.

I know that was the case with all the great teachers I had that I can so easily recall decades later.

Regards,
John


John,
While we are at it, people should stop paying people with more time in more money. They may not necessarily be any better at solving today's problems. One should look at performance and not experience. Experience may or may not equate to better job performance.

To begin with older workers are not as physically capable. Not to mention many still use the same methods they used 20 years ago that may not be effective today.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If curriculum is a tour through what is known, how is knowledge ever advanced?
If learning requires a didactic march through content, why are movies and stories so memorable � often, more memorable than classes we once took?
If a primary goal of education is high-level performance in the world going forward, how can marching through old knowledge out of context optimally prepare us to perform?
If education is about having core knowledge, and we are more and more teaching and testing all this knowledge, why are results on tests like NAEP so universally poor, showing that over decades American students have not progressed much beyond basic �plug and chug�?
A revealing shift in the winds has in fact occurred in our era in professional education. In medicine, engineering, business, and law courses are no longer built backward from content. They are built backward from key performances and problems in the fields. Problem-based learning and the case method not only challenge the conventional paradigm but suggest that K-12 education is increasingly out of touch with genuine trends for the better in education.


There is most likely an inverse relationship between doing well in school and making major contributions to society. People who do well in school know how to play by the rules which may make you a decent living but won't likely lead you to becoming a leader in innovation.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear JZer,

"One should look at performance and not experience. Experience may or may not equate to better job performance."

I agree totally - however, one problem with that (a problem that's currently embroiling the education community here in the US) is just how "performance" should be "measured."

Too many "administrators" (almost all of whom haven't set foot in a classroom since they left school) want to base it mainly on "student grades on standardized tests."

Personally, I think performance should be measured by a battery of "indicators", that test scores and drop-out rates should be only a part of the measurement - and certainly NOT the "lion's share."

So, any ideas on how "teacher performance" should be measured?

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:

AS much as we talk about problem solving and task based learning, while I was at school at least, a lot of it was just regurgitating info. That's how our teachers may have learnt, so that's how they taught. It's a vicious circle.


If you look around, you can find schools doing things differently. But for the most part, "the system" in the US does not want schools to turn out intelligent people, it wants more consumers to perpetuate itself. All systems have self preservation as a core goal.

Personally, I went to a public high school in the middle of the US. There was nothing remarkable about this school, except that the demographics of it's tax base made if fairly well funded. The school district employed an academic consultant a position which changed every 2 years or so. When I was in 10th grade a new consultant came in and got all the teachers doing "task based learning" (this was in 1989 btw). No more final exams--all projects. In world history my group was assigned to act as the Chamber of Commerence of Ancient Rome we had to prepare a presentation with visuals at a "business convention" aimed at attracting businesses to come and set up shop in Ancient Rome. So we had to talk about the vertues of the city and be prepared to address concerns about the cities problems. All the subjects, except math, had similiar such projects. In math we still had to "do math" apartently solving math problems was seen as inherently task based Question Science had final lab projects.
You might say, wow where is the cutting edge school that has been totally task based for more than 20 years?

Well, it's no where--the state and the community didn't like it, by the 12th grade we were back to final exams.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: Everything you know about curriculum may be wrong. Reall Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
So, suppose knowledge is not the goal of education.


Was it ever? Daycare was, and still is one of the primary purposes of education. Keep in mind that compulsory public schooling in the west came about as a means to keep children out of dangerous factory conditions and off the streets. Yesterday I noted the surprising fact that CELTAs, DELTAs or even MATESOLs are req'd for adults but who even 'prefers' a CELTA YL for kids? Sorting and selecting (standardized tests) is another important purpose as everyone knows which in Asia predates Confucius.

As I'd written elsewhere, the nature of print is largely to blame for this knowledge-dissemination curriculum you describe. Some feel smartphones and tablets have finally rendered such teaching obsolete. Are you aware of Apple's current courtship with education publishers?

You're right about John Dewey's criticism. In regards to the hidden curriculum, he feared even democracy was at stake. In 1970, Illich went even further in his criticism:

Quote:
Why We Must Disestablish School
Many students, especially those who are poor, intuitively know what the schools do for them. They school them to confuse process and substance. Once these become blurred, a new logic is assumed: the more treatment there is, the better are the results; or, escalation leads to success. The pupil is thereby "schooled" to confuse teaching with learning, grade advancement with education, a diploma with competence, and fluency with the ability to say something new. His imagination is "schooled" to accept service in place of value. Medical treatment is mistaken for health care, social work for the improvement of community life, police protection for safety, military poise for national security, the rat race for productive work. Health, learning, dignity, independence, and creative endeavor are defined as little more than the performance of the institutions which claim to serve these ends, and their improvement is made to depend on allocating more resources to the management of hospitals, schools, and other agencies in question.
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/DESCHOOLING.pdf


Someone started a poll years back asking what we consider ourselves: teacher; coach; facilitator; instructor; etc. A teacher can only teach which by definition means providing the conditions for learning but it's ultimately the student who learns. The term 'teacher' based on my own 'schooling' conjures up as many images of 'lecturing' or 'instructing' as of 'facilitating' or 'coaching' or 'guiding'. Here in Asia, it's limited to 'lecturing' as class sizes average 45 students.
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MotherF wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:

AS much as we talk about problem solving and task based learning, while I was at school at least, a lot of it was just regurgitating info. That's how our teachers may have learnt, so that's how they taught. It's a vicious circle.


If you look around, you can find schools doing things differently. But for the most part, "the system" in the US does not want schools to turn out intelligent people, it wants more consumers to perpetuate itself. All systems have self preservation as a core goal.

Personally, I went to a public high school in the middle of the US. There was nothing remarkable about this school, except that the demographics of it's tax base made if fairly well funded. The school district employed an academic consultant a position which changed every 2 years or so. When I was in 10th grade a new consultant came in and got all the teachers doing "task based learning" (this was in 1989 btw). No more final exams--all projects. In world history my group was assigned to act as the Chamber of Commerence of Ancient Rome we had to prepare a presentation with visuals at a "business convention" aimed at attracting businesses to come and set up shop in Ancient Rome. So we had to talk about the vertues of the city and be prepared to address concerns about the cities problems. All the subjects, except math, had similiar such projects. In math we still had to "do math" apartently solving math problems was seen as inherently task based Question Science had final lab projects.
You might say, wow where is the cutting edge school that has been totally task based for more than 20 years?

Well, it's no where--the state and the community didn't like it, by the 12th grade we were back to final exams.


Not everyone can become an intelligent person. I believe that most people are happy to be average consumers.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear JZer,

"Not everyone can become intelligent people. I believe that most people are happy to be average consumers."

Perhaps you're right (although I have my doubts). But even so, I think it would be good if education/schools/teachers gave everyone at least the chance to be intelligent.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear JZer,

"Not everyone can become intelligent people. I believe that most people are happy to be average consumers."

Perhaps you're right (although I have my doubts). But even so, I think it would be good if education/schools/teachers gave everyone at least the chance to be intelligent.

Regards,
John


I doubt anyone has a problem with educating people to be intelligent but what are they going to do in real life? Be bored at all the mundane jobs that most people do. Even teaching is boring unless you are teaching at the university level. Teaching rudimentary English, math or science isn't too interesting after you do it for several years.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear JZer,

I'm having a little problem understanding your post.

"People want intelligent people." I'm not sure just what that means.

"What are they going to do?" Who are the "they"? The students?

"Teaching rudimentary English, math or science isn't too interesting after you do it for several years."

Well, I suppose it could become less interesting, but it's the students that we teach, not just the subject. And the students are always changing even though the subject doesn't.

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John
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I am trying to say, is what will all these intelligent people do in the real world? Do we really need to create intelligent people when 50% or more of jobs are pretty boring? Plus they really don't need highly intelligent people to do them.
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