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Gav22
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 25
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: Eskısehır (and workıng at UKLA Ac |
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Hi all
As the fırst natıve teacher at this school ı would like to give a review of it, so that anyone considering going there can make a fair decısıon. As it is a new school, there arent very many revıews on it, so this will be the first. more, ı am sure, will soon follow as the school contınues to expand and grow. i hope it's well balanced and helps you make a decision I wıll be up front and say that ı dıd have some very negatıve experıences here - but also some very nıce ones.
I have broken this down into chunks so you can see for yourself my perception and vıew on dıfferent elements of the school and city itself.
1) City - Eskisehir is quite nice, if not a littie boring. İt's a student city wıth tonnes of young people so is quıte lıvely ın one partıcular area known as 'Pub street'. Apart from thıs there really ısnt a lot to do - but at the same tıme ı found ıt very liveable and there are several large malls where you can get everythıng you need, there's a very good tram system for gettıng around, cabs are plentıful and walkıng around ıs easy and breezy. I would consıder thınkıng twıce ıf you are a woman however, expecıally ıf you don't look Turkısh. My blonde Amerıcan housemate was attacked twıce ın 2 months - once by a group of men who trıed to abduct her ınto a whıte van, and once by a man who followed her ınto her flat and masturbated ın the elevator. As a man ı obvıosuly had no such problems. Overall ı would rate Eskısehır 6/10.
2) School - Very clean, well organızed and professıonal on the surface. The staff are welcomıng and helpful, and ı was treated to a very nıce meal and brought to the best accomodatıon ı have recıeved at any school hands down. although a few small thıngs went wrong ın the apartment (ıt was kıtted out in ikea) it was very clean and i was happy to live there. not far from school eıther.
my colleagues where at all tımes very helpful and frıendly. to begın wıth the management was too, however after ı gave ın my notıce thıngs quıckly changed. smıles turned ınto frowns and whıle a frıendly veneer was presented, an ıncreasıngly apparent tension began to show as the veneer started to crack. thıs culmınated ın the last few days.
Fırst the management refused to pay me on the prevıously agreed date of the 5th of each month. ı had some oblıgatıons fınancıally and ınformed them that thıs was unacceptable. they ınformed me that they dıdnt trust me to fınısh my classes (ı was due to leave on the 10th) and ı would be paıd then. at thıs poınt ı resıgned and decıded that ı would just collect my money and go whıle ı stıll had tıme to fıgure thıngs out ıf they dıdnt pay me.
At thıs poınt management arrıved at the flat and paıd me. ı was then promptly evıcted from the apartment wıth 2 hours warnıng and told my classes were canceled (faır as thıs ıs actually what ı had hoped for). ı was paıd a full months salary - however ı was paıd NO OVERTIME - despıte doıng sıx hours per week sınce ı got here. thıs should be of partıcular ınterest to all future teachers - you wıll never get your overtıme as there ıs a very clever clause ın the contract statıng you must teach 1200 hours over a year (100 per month rollıng)- whıch ıs of course 25 hours a week as agreed. however - as the fırst two weeks are orıentatıon (ın some other cases the fırst month) and not consıdered teachıng hours - you are automatıcally down 50 teachıng hours. thıs means that you wıll work 5 hours overtıme per week for the duratıon and you wont recıeve a penny extra for ıt. very clever and goes unnotıced even by experıenced teachers such as myself. however, ıt ıs wrıtten ın the contract ın clear black and whıte, so nothıng you can do.
Apart from thıs ı would lıke to comment on the unprofessıonalısm of the female manager ın partıcular. fırstly ı wıtnessed outrıght bullyıng and ıntımıdatıon of a colleage from amerıca. thıs woman, who ı wıll call K, was told by manager who ı wıll call E, that she had too many scars on her face, that her dress code wasnt approprıate (despıte the fact that she was wearıng exactly the same thıng as another colleague) and was pıcked on non stop from start to fınısh. E ınformed me and every other member of staff that she ıntended to fıre K but then decıded to turn nıce when myself and another resıgned (me for not beıng paıd and J for beıng sexually assaulted). K, however is now well aware she ıs goıng to be fıred and has also gıven her notıce.
I then dıscovered to my absolute horror that E (manager) had obtaıned my personal dıarıes whıch ı left ın school read through them - and dıscussed the contents wıth another member of staff, makıng fun of some of what was wrıtten there. thıs fellow member of staff ınformed me of thıs and ı was deeply emabressed as some of ıt was quıte personal. she then proceeded to tell all members of staff that she had fıred us, because we had done somethıng terrıble. thıs was confırmed by another member of staff who ı wont mentıon as they stıll work there.
fınally ı wıll mentıon the sex attacks. my colleague and frıend - J - was told by E that ıf she went out alone at nıght - she was ınvıtıng attacks. E had told me when ı ınformed her what happened that such a thıng had happened prevıously to her frıend - then ımmedıately called J and denıed that anythıng lıke thıs ever happened ın Turkey. She forgot, however, that J and I lıve together and communıcated quıte well.
All of these things are balanced however by the fact that the school ıs extremely well kıtted out wıth each room havıng projectors and computers and brand new desks and frehs paınt - the students are frıendly and most of them are very moıvated adults - and Eskısehır ıtself ıs a nıce enough place to lıve.
If you can handle serıous mısmanagement and workıng under someone who absolutely has to be ın control of every element of everythıng at all tımes - gıve UKLA academy Eskısehır a try
Personally - ı would gıve ıt a miss. There are better schools out there. Good luck ın your decısıon. |
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clifton10
Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 71 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: UKLA Eskisehir |
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Thanks Gav22 for the info. I think I'll give Eskisehir a pass as the local men there don't show a gram of respect to foreign women(and I'm a man myself), I'm also looking into going back to SE Asia or up the road to Moscow.
Also, good luck with with your next adventure.
Cheers |
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ossie39
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 105
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: Eskisehir UKLA |
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Well done Gav for exposing these crooks. I think you have been brave with your account and very informative. I hope your next experience is far better. |
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eternalescence
Joined: 19 Jan 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey I would like to make a comment about this as a foreign woman living in Eski for over a year. I cant really saying thing about UKLA because I dont know that school but I would like to talk about the city. Eski is a great city to live in. It�s a student city so there are lots of bars and cafes. There is also a reasonable of Turkish food variety, although very little foreign food. Eski is also liberal and well educated so a lot of a people here are very comfortable with foreigners and communicating with foreigners. Eski is also a very cheap city to live in and there are lots of small shops and several shopping malls to shop at. It�s also very much a walking city, with just about everything in walking distance. For those that don�t like walking there is the tram, plenty of taxis, buses, and shared taxis (dolmus). I teach at another English school and my students often tell me that Eski is one of the safest cities in Turkey to live in.
There are some downsides to Eski. It�s small, only about 600K people. There are not beaches here for people who like beaches, and there is less to �see and do� here than some place like Istanbul. But the quality of life here is much higher than many of the other cities in Turkey.
The second thing I want to address is Turkish men. A lot of foreign women have trouble with Turkish men just about everywhere in Turkey, not just Eski. There are several reasons for that. Firstly, foreign women commomly give mixed signal by treating Turkish men like they were from a Western culture. If you give men here any attention including a simple smile its generally taken that you�re interested in them. Turkish women generally dont socialize with men unless they�re in groups or they�re dating. Also, once a Turkish man is interested in a woman they can be quite persistant in their �romance.� Sometimes it can be easily dealt with and some times its more serious and its like stalking. The easiest way to avoid this is to avoid socializing or interacting with strange men on any level.
There is also more problems for people who are blonde, including Turks, but especially foreigners. Blonde women are associated with being Russian, which they assume to be prostitutes. Turkish women know how to responded to this. I have a blonde Turkish friend and I�ve seen here flip out on a few people for giving her crap. But my advice to foreigners is to ignore and keep walking.
Lastly, if you see a man following you home or anything suspicious, call the police ASAP. Or call a close friend, or even your job if that�s okay with them. All this being said, I have lived here for one year and I have had no real problems with men here, and even some of myg good friends are men here. Just be aware of the cultural differences, and don�t expected them to act different to their own culture. |
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PC Parrot
Joined: 11 Dec 2009 Posts: 459 Location: Moral Police Station
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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eternalescence wrote: |
Just be aware of the cultural differences, and don�t expected them to act different to their own culture. |
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. If it were cultural, all Turkish men would be at it, touching women up and whatnot.
The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them do not. The number of Turkish men that physically harass women is mercifully small, and there is no cultural excuse for their actions. They are scumbags.
They are scumbags in the eyes of the Turks too ... |
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burdik

Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 33 Location: izmir
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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oh im a turkish man and i wish harrasing woman was part of my culture and acceptible  |
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