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harold



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:13 am    Post subject: Off-compound life and rent Reply with quote

I'm looking at this offer from a recruiter (pre-interview) and I wonder how much of the allowance I'll spend in rent. I found a lot of information here about what it costs to live in a compound, but what about off-compound life? Anyone know what that might cost? I understand that there will be market variations between places, but any estimates from any places would be helpful.

Also, do most teachers live on or off compound?

Thanks so much for any info.
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most teachers live in compounds. Some opt out (couples) for obvious reasons. Cost of living is not too high- you can stock up on essentials without worrying too much. The only expense I found is when I travel -(air tickets/hotels), otherwise you can save a lot of money.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would help if you were more specific about where you will be based and who you are interviewing for. Where "most teachers" live in Saudi is a tad vague Wink

For example, if you are in Eastern Province, you may decide to visit regularly or even live in Bahrain. That will have a very different effect on your spending than staying put in Saudi for the whole term of your employment.

Furnished/unfurnished? 1 bedroom/2 bedroom? Dependents coming over? Car?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best jobs are where you are housed on campus and you can walk to work. I cannot imagine the horrors of having to drive through the traffic in Jeddah, Riyadh or Dammam from apartment to workplace !

KFUPM wins again !


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babur



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:45 am    Post subject: living off compound Reply with quote

From a lifelong KSA resident

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It is doable. Lived off compound in all three cities. Never had to pay more than SR2500 for a furnished apartment 12 months of the year (6 months rent paid in advance). It's worth the commute.

Life on a compound - fenced in with your fellow teachers as neighbors or flatmates(!!!!!!) regardless of whether wish you'd never met them/are already sick of the sight of them ... Your week:

Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall

You'll be cattle-trucked back and forth crammed in a bus with your fellow teachers, regardless of whether you like them/are already sick of the sight of them ...

And on the weekend: enjoy the gym/pool/recreational center always with sight/earshot of your fellow teachers, regardless of whether you like them/are already sick of the sight of them ...

Alternatively, you could get a life!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why I said - go for a job where you live ON CAMPUS. This is deffo not the same as on a compound !
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harold



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and thanks everyone.

Candles, thanks for the info. When I checked out the links that people posted on this forum, compound rents seemed to be very expensive. My offer includes a sizeable 'allowance' for travel and housing and such, but I'd only want to go to Saudi if I could save a lot of that, too. So, good to her life isn't that expensive.

Thanks, Sicklyman, I don't know where I'll be based. I'll just be assigned somewhere if I get the job. It's an al-Hoty contract (Aramco subcontract). I've read that the subcontracted positions for ARAMCO have a considerably different situation than the direct hires, and that they do not usually live on the ARAMCO compounds (whatever that means). No dependents; coming alone. I'd probably try to find a cheaper place if the rents are high, as the purpose of the move is to save up. I guess I'm also fishing for general info like what you said about Bahrain. I don't have any idea of how 'compound' or 'off-compound' life would differ, other than the general idea of a gated community of expats vs. a regular saudi urban neighborhood.

PN thanks for the figures. I was hoping housing would be cheaper and that's very good to know before the interview.

Scot thanks; I'll have to find out about transportation wherever they want to put me.
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harold



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babur, that person's compound situation doesn't sound so great. i guess there's a lot of variation in the quality of the compounds. price of the off compound place looks good. thanks a lot.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Off-compound life and rent Reply with quote

harold wrote:
Also, do most teachers live on or off compound?
Depends on the accommodation benefit per the contract---if housing is employer-provided or an allowance is allocated and the teacher picks where they want to live. But if you're referring to teachers who were offered the option of a flat on the outside vs. housing on a compound, then it's anyone's guess as to why they chose one accommodation situation over the other (emphasis on guess). As for "most" teachers... No one can say how many. I'm not even sure why that's relevant.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: living off compound Reply with quote

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It is doable. Lived off compound in all three cities. Never had to pay more than SR2500 for a furnished apartment 12 months of the year (6 months rent paid in advance). It's worth the commute.

Life on a compound - fenced in with your fellow teachers as neighbors or flatmates(!!!!!!) regardless of whether wish you'd never met them/are already sick of the sight of them ... Your week:

Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall
Compound bus to work, back to compound, to tamimi/panda/expensive mall

You'll be cattle-trucked back and forth crammed in a bus with your fellow teachers, regardless of whether you like them/are already sick of the sight of them ...

And on the weekend: enjoy the gym/pool/recreational center always with sight/earshot of your fellow teachers, regardless of whether you like them/are already sick of the sight of them ...

Alternatively, you could get a life!

Sadly, this is not an inaccurate description... which is also true if you live on-campus. Living in the Gulf is like living in a small town. Everyone knows everyone... and it can be wearing after a few years (or months). Not much privacy either. This is one of the reasons that many people don't last in the Gulf even if they do have a decent employer.

Finding housing off-compound or off-campus may help, but depending on your city, the number of expats can be limited. So there is still an excess of 'togetherness.'

Those who do best are those that can entertain themselves in a non-destructive manner even after that time of the year where everyone is starting to wear on each other's nerves.

Be sure to get a job that has plenty of vacation time to escape... Laughing

VS
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get cheap off-compund accommodation you will have to get to work. Will you buy a car ? Better you than me !
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harold



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot, the towns don't have public transport?
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harold



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks noman soul, i'll ask about this in the interview.

VS - sounds like a difficult combination of both lonely and also tired of people around you. anything other than the golden handcuff that keeps expats there?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major towns in KSA have very basic bus services. These are next to uselss for getting to and from work. Taxis area available and not too expensive for occasional use. Do you want to spend SR 1000 a month on getting to and from work ?

That would mean a lifteime bar on membership of the Fabled Fraternity of the 500


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