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5h09un



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: question about TOEFL writing Reply with quote

is the writing portion of this exam graded by a human being, a computer or both?

Facing a Robo-Grader? Just Keep Obfuscating Mellifluously

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/education/robo-readers-used-to-grade-test-essays.html?src=me&ref=general&pagewanted=all
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering the rubric, I'd say no robot/computer could come close to scoring it.
http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL/pdf/Writing_Rubrics.pdf

Wikipedia confirms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOEFL#Internet-based_Test_2
The Writing section measures a test taker's ability to write in an academic setting and consists of two tasks: one integrated task and one independent task. In the integrated task, test-takers read a passage on an academic topic and then listen to a speaker discuss the same topic. The test-taker will then write a summary about the important points in the listening passage and explain how these relate to the key points of the reading passage. In the independent task, the test-taker must write an essay that states, explains, and supports their opinion on an issue, supporting their opinions or choices, rather than simply listing personal preferences or choices. Responses are sent to the ETS OSN and evaluated by four raters.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've long suspected that robots write the bilge that I have to correct, in other exams. And if you can hit even close to grading 30 scripts an hour, you will be virtually transformed into a robo-reader yourself.

TOEFL has long led the field in automation. I mean, who can forget the automaton voices that are used in the tests?

WHAT DOES THE MAN IMPLY?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actual people, or at least reasonable facsimilies thereof. Cool
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gator07



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a combination is used but the human raters' responses are used for feedback/score deferrals:
http://www.ets.org/toefl/ibt/scores/
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading this article about robots vs humans and grading.

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/24/151305392/robot-eyes-as-good-as-humans-when-grading-essays
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robo readers not so good at comprehension, coherence etc? Not to worry. The candidates aren't either...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gator07 wrote:
It sounds like a combination is used but the human raters' responses are used for feedback/score deferrals:
http://www.ets.org/toefl/ibt/scores/
Good catch. Too bad the article didn't say precisely what the automated scoring was used for.
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hippocampus



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Robo-readers! You know what would be cool? If robots could be policeman; they'd be called 'Robo-cops and... oh, never mind.
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