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Kionon



Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: On my way back in three weeks Reply with quote

Already doing my homework, already applying for positions, already submitted resumes. That being said, just wanted to toss this on given the off chance someone might know of a good fit. It's happened before. I wish I could go back to my previous area, but my own previous position was filled in April. I'd like a job in Hyogo, Kyoto, or Osaka, so I could keep within distance of my frends and contacts.

Glenski knows much of this, but just to throw it out there:

MA, Government major, history minor, emphasis on Japanese Culture and Politics (degree will actually be conferred in August, but I am finished with my coursework, graduate next week).
BA, English (planned to teach in Texas, one offer at graduation for $18k a year, did not take it)
American
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One academic journal publication so far
Specialist in Humanities visa until August of 2013
Drivers License until October of 2014
Japanese level at JLPT 3, or therabouts.
Three years experience in Japan, additional experience with high schoolers and undergraduate students in the US
Preferred level, JHS or HS, but have experience with ES
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Amarok



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Location: pineapple under the sea

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, right now it's about a month into the new school year in Japan, so I don't think you'll find a lot of positions opening up. By this point most people who are gonna ditch have ditched and all the lingering openings have been filled, so there's hardly any opportunity as far as jobs in public schools go. If you're dead set on an age range, maybe you'd be better off looking into juku positions right now?

Also, I don't mean to be rude by asking this, but why are you coming back to Japan to have an entry level job teaching English after earning a Masters in government? It seems like a waste of knowledge and money to get a Masters degree only to want to come back to Japan to have a bottom of the barrel English teaching job again. Or were you hoping to use a teaching job as a stepping stone to something else now that you have a higher degree?
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Kionon



Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amarok wrote:
Unfortunately, right now it's about a month into the new school year in Japan, so I don't think you'll find a lot of positions opening up. By this point most people who are gonna ditch have ditched and all the lingering openings have been filled, so there's hardly any opportunity as far as jobs in public schools go.


I was an ALT for three years, I know all of this, yes. This is precisely why I don't have my own position back. That being said, I actually received that position in much the same situation as I am in now--someone bailed and I ended up being offered the position. Hardly an opportunity != no opportunity, especially given how many positions I've already applied to posted on May 1st or after.

I should also be clear I have interviewed for positions based on threads like this, so really it was just a shot in the dark, one of many. Enough such shots and a position will be found.

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If you're dead set on an age range, maybe you'd be better off looking into juku positions right now?


Now this is something useful. I'm not interested in eikaiwa work as a long term position, but I wouldn't be opposed to juku (from what I've seen of it), if I knew how juku positions were listed differently from eikaiwa positions.

As it is, I have a valid visa, and I was expecting to go a few months without work if absolutely necessary, and would have the funds for it, so any work I could get while looking for a position more amenable to my interests would be something I'd consider.

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Also, I don't mean to be rude by asking this, but why are you coming back to Japan to have an entry level job teaching English after earning a Masters in government? It seems like a waste of knowledge and money to get a Masters degree only to want to come back to Japan to have a bottom of the barrel English teaching job again. Or were you hoping to use a teaching job as a stepping stone to something else now that you have a higher degree?


You (and others on various sites, though not as much on this one as others) seem to forget that not everyone agrees with you regarding the value of the position. This was always part of the plan. I am a teacher. I LIKE teaching 12-15 year olds, and I like teaching Japanese 12-15 year olds. Once my Japanese is at JLPT2 or higher, I actually plan to pursue a 教員免許. This would be the next step--but leaving secondary education is certainly not something I ever want to do. Nor do I have any interest in leaving Japan again. The MA work has been a lot of fun, but I'm terribly homesick, and my trips back to pay taxes and renew my drivers license, etc, only underscored my feelings.

The MA was largely a combination of check in the box, personal interest, and resume builder. Yes, I spent a good chunk of change to do it, but I thoroughly enjoyed doing it, I did it with savings and not a single dime of loans, and managed to be very involved in ways I hadn't been able to when I was an undergraduate all while maintaining a GPA which will allow me to easily pursue a PhD at some point should I wish to. I even joined a fraternity! Sure are worse things to spend your money on--I could have bought a sports car.

So, rude? Maybe a little arrogant in that you would think your idea of value is the same, or should be the same, as everyone else's. But I'm not offended, just resigned given how widely your opinion is held, even though it is not one I concur with in even the slightest. Should I be offended?

P.S. There are no jobs in America, or haven't you heard? What do you suggest I do? And more importantly, how do you suggest I be as happy as I was already? If you can't answer that...
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timothypfox



Joined: 20 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last issue of Ohayo Sensei still has jobs available. They may not be the best choices, but there are some jobs.

I shouldn't really post this here, but I disagree with your idea Kionon that there are no jobs in America. I know this should really be posted in the NA forum - but I will put it here to get this out... If you are stuck with teaching jobs that pay as low as that offer in Texas, you need to seriously consider relocating. Alaska always needs people, and most major cities have public school teaching fellowships. Also, there are charter schools and such.

Now back to Japan... You might also check Tieonline. Some international schools are on a North American schedule and will look to hire now. It looks like you may not have teaching certification - so I would gear your search to work at private Japanese school with a strong English program. Likely in your case - Junior High. You can try directly writing to these schools for ALT or in some rare cases an actual job as an actual teacher.
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Kionon



Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timothypfox wrote:
The last issue of Ohayo Sensei still has jobs available. They may not be the best choices, but there are some jobs.


Yep already on my radar. I've sent in resumes to anything I think I am qualified for and I think I'd be willing to do.

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I shouldn't really post this here, but I disagree with your idea Kionon that there are no jobs in America. I know this should really be posted in the NA forum - but I will put it here to get this out... If you are stuck with teaching jobs that pay as low as that offer in Texas, you need to seriously consider relocating. Alaska always needs people, and most major cities have public school teaching fellowships. Also, there are charter schools and such.


That was said somewhat tongue-in-cheek. In all honesty, I have no interest in staying in the United States, which ceased being my home years ago, and even if I did, am REALLY picky about where I am willing to relocate to in the US. In fact, the only two cities I actually WANT to live in are Austin and Atlanta. I hate Dallas, and I've spent the last ten years of my life trying to stay as far away from here as possible, a variety of factors contributed to my choosing to go to grad school here, given how much I despise the area. This is my problem with placing value on a position simply in terms of finances. Money isn't my primary source of value--location is. Oh, and I can hardly stand Kyoto area winters. Something tells me Alaska would be a bad idea.

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Now back to Japan... You might also check Tieonline. Some international schools are on a North American schedule and will look to hire now. It looks like you may not have teaching certification - so I would gear your search to work at private Japanese school with a strong English program. Likely in your case - Junior High. You can try directly writing to these schools for ALT or in some rare cases an actual job as an actual teacher.


No, I do not have Texas certification. When it became clear I would have to relocate from Texas, I did not complete the certification due to the states not necessarily having reciprocal certification agreements. I ended up moving to Atlanta to work in politics, and Georgia did not have a reciprocal agreement. I considered finishing the certification process during graduate school, but it would have added an extra semester, and all of my research indicated the Japanese school system wouldn't pay it any attention.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private schools can issue you a special teaching license that will only work at their school. (you only need to get hired by a school as teacher - not ALT to qualify - no prior teaching cert required!) I believe there are certain cases where a public school can do this, but not as easily.
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Tsian



Joined: 10 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the special teacher's license is available as long as your school and BoE apply to the prefectural BoE and they approve it. It's designed to recognize important field experience in various categories, and so the requirements for having it issued may vary based on the prefecture you are in.

Also, while it is a teaching license, the duties you are able to undertake are limited somewhat.
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Kionon



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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're talking about the 臨時免許, I assume, and yes. That's usually the first step to the 教員免許 and is, I think, what Glenski had/has.

I'd like to point out that two of the big dispatch companies are already in contact with me and setting up phone interviews, so this bodes well I think... Much faster response time than when I first came to Japan, but then, when I first came, I didn't already have my documentation... We shall see.

Ideally, yeah, I'd love to teach for a private school with a 臨時免許, I was just under the impression that those positions are hard to find and are listed in strange ways. I am on a few mailing lists for private school positions, and I was even sent a position today for a position in Osaka--which required two years experience in home country, so I didn't bother applying.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had (past tense) the temporary teaching license. It expired after the contract was up in 3 years and was valid for only that one school.

Heads up on teaching for any private JHS or HS. It's a HECKUVA lot of work as a full-timer! You'd better be prepared to work half your Saturdays per month, and not leave the building until 7-8pm at the earliest on Mon-Fri.

Club activities, committee meetings, meetings for each grade, all-staff meetings, department meetings (see a pattern here?), and possibly late-night dormitory duty will all suck away your valuable time to do any homework, lesson prep (with co-teachers, especially), and research.

Let's not forget school festival, koshien, and overseas study trips which decimate any motivation to study.
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious about the subject of teaching licenses and private schools.

I now work at a private J/SHS. I'm full-time, but it's through a dispatch company. I teach alone in the classroom, aside from first-grade JH where there's a Japanese teacher in there too, mainly to help with any translations.

I am responsible for all curriculum in my classes, including creating and marking tests.

I don't have a teaching license. I haven't applied for one. If my school or company has applied on my behalf, I haven't received anything yet and I've been here a month.

Thoughts?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel,
Your employer is the dispatch agency, not the school. Seems very weird for a school to go that route, and all I can figure is that they are cheapskates. So, since you don't work FOR the school, you are probably not eligible for a teaching license like I got. I cannot say for sure. Maybe the labor standard office can explain.

I know ALTs get dispatched, but not FT solo teachers. Strange.
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Kionon



Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Heads up on teaching for any private JHS or HS. It's a HECKUVA lot of work as a full-timer!


So you mean it's an actual teaching job? Cool

My main complaint with ALT work has always been too little responsibility in some schools, not too much. This is because I actually enjoy teaching grammar, syntax, vocabulary, and ultimately writing and literature when the rare opportunity presents itself. If the US had a national system of certification, I would have had it years ago.

Never been a fan of the revolving door aspect of the ALT business. Which is why I stayed at the same schools in the same communities, and would have gone back if my position hadn't already been filled in April. I even visited in October when paying my taxes, and my former students were very upset I was not there to stay... Apparently my replacement was not very popular.
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Cool Teacher



Joined: 18 May 2009
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kionon wrote:
Glenski wrote:
Heads up on teaching for any private JHS or HS. It's a HECKUVA lot of work as a full-timer!


So you mean it's an actual teaching job? Cool


No sireeee! 8 until 8 on weekdays and then half your saturdays is beyond the call of most duties. Shocked
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Kionon



Joined: 12 Apr 2008
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Location: Kyoto, Japan and Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Teacher wrote:
Kionon wrote:
Glenski wrote:
Heads up on teaching for any private JHS or HS. It's a HECKUVA lot of work as a full-timer!


So you mean it's an actual teaching job? Cool


No sireeee! 8 until 8 on weekdays and then half your saturdays is beyond the call of most duties. Shocked


You've never met my high school teachers... Or most of the Japanese corporate types I've met. Pretty par the course for both.

Oh, and there's the many teachers who often purchase supplies out of their own pocket.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on where you work as a full-time HS or JHS teacher. If you get such a position, it may or may not be hard work.

My teaching duties are about 16 hours spread over a week with a half day Saturday. The kids are pretty busy, so I try to do the more ALT type of thing (walking around and talking to kids) during the afternoon Souji (cleaning) time. I have homeroom responsibilities 2 times a week. Also from time to time I am required to go to promotional events for prospective families. I go home at 5:30 on weekdays and 1:30 on Saturdays.
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