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Yogita
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 Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:38 am Post subject: Good Business English course |
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Hi everyone 
I would like to teach Business English next year ...
Where can I do a good Business English course online?
Are there any leading ones with accreditation that will give me an international edge?
Do any of you teach Business English? |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Good Business English course |
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| Yogita wrote: |
Hi everyone
I would like to teach Business English next year ...
Where can I do a good Business English course online?
Are there any leading ones with accreditation that will give me an international edge?
Do any of you teach Business English? |
Do you have a degree and hold a passport from an anglophone country?
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spiral78
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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To teach business English, most reputable language schools in the regions I am familiar with (Europe, North America) will want you to have some business experience.
There is no course that I know of focusing specifically on Business English.
I've taught Business English for 14+ years. |
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Kofola
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Yogita
Joined: 17 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
| Yogita wrote: |
Hi everyone
I would like to teach Business English next year ...
Where can I do a good Business English course online?
Are there any leading ones with accreditation that will give me an international edge?
Do any of you teach Business English? |
Do you have a degree and hold a passport from an anglophone country?
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Not the baccalaureate but I have equivalent to it via NVQ 4&5. I'm a native English speaker from the Caribbean, but neither has been an issue as I seem to get where I need to go.
| spiral78 wrote: |
To teach business English, most reputable language schools in the regions I am familiar with (Europe, North America) will want you to have some business experience.
There is no course that I know of focusing specifically on Business English.
I've taught Business English for 14+ years. |
I had a catering & events management company so that covers the business experience. Although I'm sure I need to know & learn more, so I'm open to doing a course at least. Wow 14 yrs is a lot of experience where have you taught over the years?
Kofola that's useful info there, thank you |
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Teacher in Rome
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| I did the LCCI one a few years back. It covered a lot of stuff that's helpful (such as needs analysis) but nothing that you couldn't learn yourself from various books / best practice. What I remember most was the fact that our trainer was absolutely dreadful. He'd duck questions and was generally completely unhelpful. Shame we couldn't try him out before forking out for the training... |
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Yogita
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Teacher in Rome wrote: |
| I did the LCCI one a few years back. It covered a lot of stuff that's helpful (such as needs analysis) but nothing that you couldn't learn yourself from various books / best practice. What I remember most was the fact that our trainer was absolutely dreadful. He'd duck questions and was generally completely unhelpful. Shame we couldn't try him out before forking out for the training... |
That does happen at times where you meet an awful trainer. That's why I'm opting for an online course. I do well with self-study & then write the exam after. Thanks for your input  |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Teacher in Rome wrote: |
| I did the LCCI one a few years back. It covered a lot of stuff that's helpful (such as needs analysis) but nothing that you couldn't learn yourself from various books / best practice. What I remember most was the fact that our trainer was absolutely dreadful. He'd duck questions and was generally completely unhelpful. Shame we couldn't try him out before forking out for the training... |
I suspect the trainer dodged your questions because he had little to no actual practical business experience. I've taught biz English to university students and working professionals and in both situations, I relied quite a bit on my own past business experience to expand the lessons and fill in the blanks with real work scenarios and issues. Moreover, having relevant experience added to my credibility when I applied for English for business positions. |
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john123
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I did the IBET at LTS Bath.
It was worth it because the trainers were seemingly clued up about everything, including tapping into people's needs, opening a business, syllabus design (though I disagree with designing syllabuses as language emerges over time), and teaching the core business skills (presenting telephoning etc).
Unlike the CELTA, it was worth my tuppence. And no I do not work for Trinity.
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Yogita
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Thx john123, the Trinity IBET looks like the best option but I'll be happy if I could do it via self-study & then come in & write the exam, rather be in a classroom. |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Yogita wrote: |
| tttompatz wrote: |
Do you have a degree and hold a passport from an anglophone country?
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Not the baccalaureate but I have equivalent to it via NVQ 4&5. I'm a native English speaker from the Caribbean, but neither has been an issue as I seem to get where I need to go. |
Sans degree wipes out a lot of the map. Various immigration services don't care about "equivalent" when it comes to visa issuance. Either you have one and can get a visa or you do not and you cannot.
Not holding a passport from one of the major 5 anglophone countries also adds difficulties and or extra hoops to jump through or further eliminates countries from the "legal to work" part of the map.
I can't speak to Europe but a large part of Asia is off of the employment map if you are seeking legal work teaching "business English" for the above reasons (not possible to get a proper visa or work permits in many parts of Asia).
As to getting a course in teaching "business" English (on-line or otherwise) I have no recommendation. That said, if you are considering "self directed study" to build on your personal business experience then look at books/textbooks on marketing (no, not sales although that is a part of marketing), entrepreneurship, management and organizational behavior.
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Yogita
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Not true. Well at least not in my case. I've been on the 2 year UK work holiday visa in the past which is replaced now with the youth mobility scheme. Now I work in Turkey for an international school. Got my residency here recently after being here for 3 months & now my work permit is in process.
If I believed half of what others tell me I can't do or if I think like you I wouldn't get anywhere... |
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Xie Lin
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If I believed half of what others tell me I can't do or if I think like you I wouldn't get anywhere...
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I'm not sure why you wouldn't "get anywhere" if you thought like tttompatz. He seems to be very successful in his professional life. You could do a lot worse than to seriously consider what he has to say.
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santi84
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Not true. Well at least not in my case. I've been on the 2 year UK work holiday visa in the past which is replaced now with the youth mobility scheme. Now I work in Turkey for an international school. Got my residency here recently after being here for 3 months & now my work permit is in process.
If I believed half of what others tell me I can't do or if I think like you I wouldn't get anywhere... |
tttompatz is not insulting you or anything, he is simply stating facts - that you do not have a degree for visa qualification and that you do not have a passport from one of the major Anglophone countries. That information is useful when people are trying to make recommendations to you about what sort of options exist for further education and/or employment.
I'm sorry you don't like it, but the truth is that many countries/programs would not accept you - so tttompatz is just trying to get clarification in order to give you realistic advice. Few people are going to recommend illegal work here, so it's fair for them to ask first. |
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santi84
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