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Nadan
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:26 pm Post subject: Job offer in KL sound ok? |
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Hi all,
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I got a job offer from a language Institute in KL and this is what they're proposing:
- Expected salary: RM6000 per month
- 3 day holdiay every 3 months
- Teaching time: 09:00-18:00 mon to fri
- extra classes available from 18:00-19:30 at RM50 per hour
- 2 year contract
-� At the end of the contract RM2500 of compensation for air flight will be offered (not clear which 'air flight' this is refering to)
- 3 month probation period (visa will be processed on the 2nd month of the teaching period)
- visa processing fee is RM3000 but it will be deducted from the salary in installments of 150RM per month.
How does this job offer sound to you all?
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Thanks!
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steki47
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 1029 Location: BFE Inaka
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a house allowance? Holidays? |
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rayman
Joined: 24 May 2003 Posts: 427
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like long days and only 12 days holiday per year? Furthermore, a maximum of 5 days off at any one time (3 day holiday + weekend) doesn't give you enough time to do some meaningful traveling within the region. Just my thoughts. |
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Nadan
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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steki47 wrote: |
Is there a house allowance? Holidays? |
I'm not sure, ive emailed the recruiters about that this morning so im waiting to hear back from them. |
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Nadan
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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rayman wrote: |
Looks like long days and only 12 days holiday per year? Furthermore, a maximum of 5 days off at any one time (3 day holiday + weekend) doesn't give you enough time to do some meaningful traveling within the region. Just my thoughts. |
I completely agree. The long working hours and the short holidays seem to be very off putting but i'm going to get clarification on this. |
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wailing_imam
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 580 Location: Malaya
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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No!
Never ever ever agree to pay for visa costs. Any job that asks you to do that should be disregarded at all costs.
This job sounds, quite frankly, bloody awful. Forget working and struggling to live in Malaysia. Try Indonesia, Vietnam or China instead. |
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snollygoster
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 478
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: AWFUL |
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This is quite poor for Malaysia |
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Hod
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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There are a couple of points I�ve never seen on a Malaysian job advertisement before, i.e. three days� holiday every three months, which is lower than just about any job in the country, but more shockingly the RM3000 visa fee. That seems a massive amount for this visa (I could be wrong), and in any case the employer�s really got to pay this themselves if they want a foreigner to work for them. I�ve seen a few posts on here which report definite money-making scams. What employer is this?
wailing_imam wrote: |
. Forget working and struggling to live in Malaysia. Try Indonesia, Vietnam or China instead. |
Naughty. |
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gloomyGumi
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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now that the new year ıs over, when the /%&+ wıll UCSI get back to me about my fınalızed offer???  |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Job offer in KL sound ok? |
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Nadan wrote: |
Hi all,
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I got a job offer from a language Institute in KL and this is what they're proposing:
- 3 month probation period (visa will be processed on the 2nd month of the teaching period)
Nadan |
You do realise, I hope, that you will also get the multitude of national holidays that this country takes in addition to those three days each semester. Last week in the paper they stated that Malaysians typically get ~35% of the year off annually (weekends included) due to the many holi-days. No country yet have I heard with a similar generous portion of time off.
I used to work at a school that gave us two days off at the end of each semester (and it was stated in the contract). But these were in ADDITION to all of the other holidays and to our annual leave (15-25 days). It was possible to schedule vacation during semester breaks (in between semesters), but not during the semester. That is actually quite reasonable.
For example, we just finished the Chinese New Year. In KL (and any Chinese-run business), typically schools take the entire week off.
Next week, Monday and Tuesday are holidays in KL (Maulidur Rasul on Sunday with day-off moved to Monday; Thaipusam on Tuesday). Not all states observe the same holidays, but there are enough that I, as a teacher, sometimes wish that I could schedule class on those holidays since covering the syllabus can be difficult when the students stretch these 1- and 2-day holidays into an entire week! Over-worked they are NOT. |
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gloomyGumi
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 353
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:31 am Post subject: |
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sounds alot better than currently -3 degrees Celsıus Istanbul Turkey. |
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mindweave

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: |
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First of all, the salary is only mid-range- depending on where you live and the cost of your accomodations. It is a living wage, but not one that will put money into your savings account for eventual retirement, or whatever.
What really concerns me about this job is the fact that they don't even commence getting your work permit until you have been there at least a month. Language schools in KL get raided all the time by Immigration. If you get caught working on a social/ visitor visa without a work permit you can be deported. Any legitimate language school will apply right away for the work permit and give you documents to that effect. You need it to open a bank account here, and for many other reasons.
Secondly, there are 21 National Public holidays- so is the leave you mentioned of 3 days a quarter vacation time over and above public holidays?
This sounds like a very iffy operation- there are lots of good language programs in Malaysia, and some fly-by-night poorly managed ones. If you can, find out what their rate (per cent) is of teacher turnover. People stay at the good jobs where they feel supported.
Another consideration is the location of this school, and if it is near public transportation, or is there a company bus that picks up teachers (not uncommon here). I jumped from one job at a university to one downtown near Petronos Twin Towers and regretted it because it took me in the midst of th rush hour traffic jams and bottleneck subways with people packed like sardines. How will you get to work, and how many unpaid hours you'll spend going to work and back in transit?
Also, ask what their enrollment numbers are like. Here many Arab and Indonesian, and even Thai and Chinese Muslim students go home for Ramadan month until the Eid/ Hari Riya holidays. Enrollments drop sharply then, and teacher without solid contracts get laid off or cut to part-time hours. Do your research! That said, Malaysia is a great place to live..... |
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ffx99
Joined: 07 May 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:58 am Post subject: |
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This sounds pretty crappy. RM6000 will allow you to live but not really to save. And no organization worth it's salt will make you pay for VISA costs. AND it doesn't cost RM3000 for the VISA anyway. My VISA has the costs written on it and it's less than RM1000.
You will most likely be teaching a room full of Arabs and Iranians who are only there to maintain a VISA of their own. Steer clear of this place. |
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