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oceanhue
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 Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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I want to go down the Hagwon route, but my school unfortunately takes MONTHS to mail out our degrees. I'll say, most graduates receive their degree in August or September when graduation is in mid-late June.
So, would it be OK for me to just go to my school's office and get some type of paper that says, "Yes, oceanhue completed her BA but we haven't mailed off physical copies yet".
If I can't, I'll have to stay near campus for a few months and then move, but I would rather take off to Korea a week or two after graduation. |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| oceanhue wrote: |
I want to go down the Hagwon route, but my school unfortunately takes MONTHS to mail out our degrees. I'll say, most graduates receive their degree in August or September when graduation is in mid-late June.
So, would it be OK for me to just go to my school's office and get some type of paper that says, "Yes, oceanhue completed her BA but we haven't mailed off physical copies yet".
If I can't, I'll have to stay near campus for a few months and then move, but I would rather take off to Korea a week or two after graduation. |
In a lot of countries, especially in Asia, you need the actual parchment in your hot hands. It is an immigration requirement for the visa and NOT an employer issue. "Letters" don't cut it.
We are not supposed to discuss Korea here on the international boards (go register for the Korean forums) but...
In the specific case of Korea not only do you need the actual degree in your possession but you need to get a certified true copy made and have an apostille attached to it.
For LEGAL work in China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia to name a few others specifically, you will also need the actual, physical degree for immigration before they will issue the proper visas and/or permits.
Patience. There will be lots of jobs when you are ready.
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haleynicole14
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Location: US
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| I had the same issue when preparing to go to China in 2010. I contacted my school and told them what was going on, and they expedited my diploma printing. I don't remember if I paid extra for that or not. Generally colleges will want their graduates to be employed, and if you say "Hey, I have a job offer but need my diploma to be able to accept it" they might be willing to work out something with you. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
| ...For LEGAL work in China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia to name a few others specifically, you will also need the actual, physical degree for immigration before they will issue the proper visas and/or permits... |
a scanned copy of your degree/diploma will usually suffice
to obtain a legal work visa for china. |
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oceanhue
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| haleynicole14 wrote: |
| I had the same issue when preparing to go to China in 2010. I contacted my school and told them what was going on, and they expedited my diploma printing. I don't remember if I paid extra for that or not. Generally colleges will want their graduates to be employed, and if you say "Hey, I have a job offer but need my diploma to be able to accept it" they might be willing to work out something with you. |
Hmm, I'm not sure if my school would actually do that though. They can be pretty merciless most of the time. I'll be sure to ask them about the process once school is in session. |
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oceanhue
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
| oceanhue wrote: |
I want to go down the Hagwon route, but my school unfortunately takes MONTHS to mail out our degrees. I'll say, most graduates receive their degree in August or September when graduation is in mid-late June.
So, would it be OK for me to just go to my school's office and get some type of paper that says, "Yes, oceanhue completed her BA but we haven't mailed off physical copies yet".
If I can't, I'll have to stay near campus for a few months and then move, but I would rather take off to Korea a week or two after graduation. |
In a lot of countries, especially in Asia, you need the actual parchment in your hot hands. It is an immigration requirement for the visa and NOT an employer issue. "Letters" don't cut it.
We are not supposed to discuss Korea here on the international boards (go register for the Korean forums) but...
In the specific case of Korea not only do you need the actual degree in your possession but you need to get a certified true copy made and have an apostille attached to it.
For LEGAL work in China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia to name a few others specifically, you will also need the actual, physical degree for immigration before they will issue the proper visas and/or permits.
Patience. There will be lots of jobs when you are ready.
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That's what I feared. Shoot. I'm not sure how to entertain myself for three months. Maybe I should just take the GRE then to get it out the way. |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
| tttompatz wrote: |
| ...For LEGAL work in China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia to name a few others specifically, you will also need the actual, physical degree for immigration before they will issue the proper visas and/or permits... |
a scanned copy of your degree/diploma will usually suffice
to obtain a legal work visa for china. |
Means that an applicant still needs the actual parchment to have been awarded - still physically needs to have the degree. Can't scan what doesn't exist yet.
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rtm
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| oceanhue wrote: |
| So, would it be OK for me to just go to my school's office and get some type of paper that says, "Yes, oceanhue completed her BA but we haven't mailed off physical copies yet". |
A letter like what you describe worked for me when I first went to Japan (that was over 10 years ago though, so I can't guarantee it's the same now). I never had to show them a copy of the actual degree; the letter was all they needed. |
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oceanhue
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Can I apply to a job as I wait for diploma? |
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| rtm wrote: |
| oceanhue wrote: |
| So, would it be OK for me to just go to my school's office and get some type of paper that says, "Yes, oceanhue completed her BA but we haven't mailed off physical copies yet". |
A letter like what you describe worked for me when I first went to Japan (that was over 10 years ago though, so I can't guarantee it's the same now). I never had to show them a copy of the actual degree; the letter was all they needed. |
Well, I think I'll try both ways. I'll try to see if a letter from my school would work and if not, I'll just wait it out. I am going to be staying in the Cayman Islands w/ a close friend over the summer, so I don't feel as rushed as I did before. |
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Andrew Jordan
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| 2009 I went to the country not mentioned without my diploma. My recruiter told me to get a letter from my department head (notarized and apostillied). I was unable to get it notarized so I got a letter from someone at the registers offices (notarized and apostilled). It worked. I had no problems. I didn't even see my degree until a years later when I came come. |
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