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Janiny



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:50 am    Post subject: Most Vegan Country? Reply with quote

What country where one can work as an English teacher would be most suitable for a vegan?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know, but I'm fairly sure that Russia would be very near the bottom of the list. If that's any help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Most Vegan Country? Reply with quote

Janiny wrote:
What country where one can work as an English teacher would be most suitable for a vegan?


India but the pay sucks.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what you mean by 'vegan country' because pasta, rice, beans, legumes, soy products, vegetables, fruit, etc., can be purchased in major cities throughout the world. If you eat out, these same foods are typically available in Asian, Italian, Indian, and other ethnic restaurants. Some mainstream restaurants may be able to accommodate a vegan diet as well. You just need to be mindful about the ingredients and/or cooking methods.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The staples of a vegan diet are plentiful in most places, you might find the selection better (spices, fresh produce).

I assume you are probably referring to dining out Question

The concept of veganism (as opposed to vegetarianism) in Asia is not well understood by the vast majority of restaurants (ie. fish flakes, white sugar) but this isn't much different at home either. Eastern Europe, as Sasha points out, would be at the bottom of your list (being Canadian of Hungarian descent, I am still the laughing stock of my family for my vegan years)

India is obviously a culinary hotspot for vegetarians, but you might have trouble with veganism in restaurants (honey, sugar, milk, cream). Interestingly enough, Brazil's major cities of Rio and Sao Paulo have decent-sized vegan communities.

If you don't already, get a collection of excellent vegan cookbooks and pick a place with good access to local fresh markets.

If you can share your education, experience, and other interests, then people can offer better locations. Or if you are asking for someone else, their info Smile
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess the USA would be the most vegan-friendly, especially in the Pacific Northwest region. I say this mostly because even if you were based in the South or Midwest, you'd have access to quite a few vegan foods locally, and everything else is easily shipped. Many other Western countries are also vegan-friendly, especially the UK, NZ, and Australia, but food and shipping costs are likely a bit higher than in the states.
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markcmc



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan has a lot of vegetarian restaurants because of the number of Buddhists, but you have to know where these restaurants are. There are more meat based restaurants of course.
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Brighton Blade



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vegetarianism is Vietnam's best kept secret. I'm eating vegan and vegetarian for around less than �1 a dish. The range of tofus and substitute mock meats is beyond belief. The fake shrimp is a personal favourite but there's tofu chicken's feet too. Vietnamese cuisine is renowned for being fresh. Coupled with that and the 'Quan Chays' on every street, it's easier than living in the UK. Just don't expect to find anything too flashy.

Let me just add, I am clueless to sugar if you also omit this from your diet.
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People seem to be confusing vegans and vegetarians. Vegans eliminate all animal products from their diet including dairy, eggs, gelatine and honey. True vegans do not wear leather and avoid products from animals such as wool, silk and down.

Vegans need to take B12 and amino acid supplement since they have no dietary source of these nutrients.

You can be a vegan in any country as long as you cook for yourself.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicated wrote:
People seem to be confusing vegans and vegetarians. Vegans eliminate all animal products from their diet including dairy, eggs, gelatine and honey. True vegans do not wear leather and avoid products from animals such as wool, silk and down.

Vegans need to take B12 and amino acid supplement since they have no dietary source of these nutrients.

You can be a vegan in any country as long as you cook for yourself.


In other words, true vegans deny the fact that they are animals.
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Steinmann



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicated wrote:
True vegans do not wear leather and avoid products from animals such as wool, silk and down.

What's wrong with them?

Dedicated wrote:
Vegans need to take B12 and amino acid supplement since they have no dietary source of these nutrients.

I beg to differ. There are a number of sources of vegetable-derived complete protein.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wangdaning wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
People seem to be confusing vegans and vegetarians. Vegans eliminate all animal products from their diet including dairy, eggs, gelatine and honey. True vegans do not wear leather and avoid products from animals such as wool, silk and down.

Vegans need to take B12 and amino acid supplement since they have no dietary source of these nutrients.

You can be a vegan in any country as long as you cook for yourself.


In other words, true vegans deny the fact that they are animals.


Not necessarily. Many vegans are opposed to the ethics of current farming practices. Many vegans do not disagree with the basics of a hunter/gatherer society - kill what you need to eat, wear what you kill (ie. like the old practices of consuming 100%, using 100%, and respecting the kill).

They are opposed to global farming practices and the inhumane conditions of slaughter, so they choose not to consume (either as food or as merchandise) any of those products.

It's a long, comprehensive issue. But the ethics of it aren't necessarily around taking life, it's around taking life with inhumane methods without true necessity.

I'm not vegan anymore. I stopped in my first pregnancy. But I was, and this was a general presumption in the community.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steinmann wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
True vegans do not wear leather and avoid products from animals such as wool, silk and down.

What's wrong with them?


Veganism means no consumer products derived from an animal. "Dietary veganism" is a term to distinguish those who only choose to not eat animal products, but "vegan" means no animal product at all.
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steinmann,

B12 does come in fortified soy milk, almonds and some cereal but you would have to eat huge quantities to get enough. B12 is a bacterial product that cannot be found reliably in plant foods but it is needed for the formation of red blood cells.
A deficiency can lead to anaemia, so doctors usually recommend taking a supplement.
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Steinmann



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicated wrote:
Steinmann,

B12 does come in fortified soy milk, almonds and some cereal but you would have to eat huge quantities to get enough. B12 is a bacterial product that cannot be found reliably in plant foods but it is needed for the formation of red blood cells.
A deficiency can lead to anaemia, so doctors usually recommend taking a supplement.


Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I was referring more to the protein angle.
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