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Zibo City - Cost of Living and av availability of side work
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boomerexpat



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Zibo City - Cost of Living and av availability of side work Reply with quote

Hi, how much would it cost to live in Zibo if apartment is provided? I don't need to live opulently but I also don't want to live like a student and count each penny/yuan.

Meals out 4 or 5 times a week in a decent inexpensive or mid-tier restaurant (not street stall), buy some foreign food provisions to cook, hang out with other people at non-fancy places, travel to a bigger city via train once a month, etc.

Also, how hard is it to get side work? I have a lot of training exp but this would be my first teaching gig. The hours are low so I should have plenty of time.
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smalls



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited a factory there last year - seemed pretty much in the boondocks, but was my first time, so maybe missed the action as I was in and out the same day. Had to take a two hour bus from Jinan (flew into Jinan) to get there, though I believe trains are readily available as well.
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therock



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are G trains (bullet trains) that pass through Zibo going to Beijing and Shanghai. 3 hours to Beijing, 5 hours to Shanghai, 2 hours to Qingdao. So plenty of options to get away once a month.
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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last housemate worked there before we worked together .. he thought it was a dire place to live, very little to do, horrible air quality and pollution and he was quite ill most of the time he was there. Sounded like a horrid place to be ... granted he didnt have a great job either, but it didnt sound like a very desirable place to be IMO.
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boomerexpat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denim-Maniac wrote:
Mhe thought it was a dire place to live, very little to do, horrible air quality and pollution and he was quite ill most of the time he was there. Sounded like a horrid place to be .


Doesn 't surprise me. A lot of miserable, polluted places in China. Frustrating in that I apply to posts for jobs in places I could live and always get a response from the recruiter for a different place.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want Shandong then look at Qingdao.
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boomerexpat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
If you want Shandong then look at Qingdao.


That is what I was doing when I got this post from the recruiter.
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hells_kitchen



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: Zibo City - Cost of Living and av availability of side w Reply with quote

boomerexpat wrote:
Hi, how much would it cost to live in Zibo if apartment is provided? I don't need to live opulently but I also don't want to live like a student and count each penny/yuan.

Meals out 4 or 5 times a week in a decent inexpensive or mid-tier restaurant (not street stall), buy some foreign food provisions to cook, hang out with other people at non-fancy places, travel to a bigger city via train once a month, etc.

Also, how hard is it to get side work? I have a lot of training exp but this would be my first teaching gig. The hours are low so I should have plenty of time.


Keeping in mind that "side work" is illegal you are already coming with premeditation and planning of breaking the law? Not a good way to start things off.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: Zibo City - Cost of Living and av availability of side w Reply with quote

boomerexpat wrote:


Also, how hard is it to get side work?


I never find this hard. In fact I turn down much side work as I don't want to work every day and night.

it's always there - if you look in the right spot, talk to the right people, or be standing on the right corner.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 10,000 a month.
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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
Over 10,000 a month.


The cost if living per month is quite subjective. GWOW suggests 10K, but my previously mentioned housemate earned 7K a month, left after 4 months due to a poor employer and feeling ill due to the environment there, and arrived at work to work with me with 10K in savings, accrued over quite a short period.

So many factors to consider in terms of lifestyle, and possibly more importantly, how long you tend to stay in China for. On a personal note, I tend to split my time fairly equally between the UK and China, am not partial to expensive imported beers/foods, and rarely need to buy clothes or other essentials. As a result I can always live comfortably on less than 3K per month, but the longer you stay, the harder that probably becomes.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boomerexpat wrote:
Non Sequitur wrote:
If you want Shandong then look at Qingdao.


That is what I was doing when I got this post from the recruiter.


I should mention that QD is thought to be a sought-after location so the schools tend to pay less.
4500 pm would be good for 16 to 20 contact hours pw. Less tax of course but plus airfare and accom.
Loads of privates, but I have found that overall the rate isn't worth it if you factor in commuting.
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Opiate



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I should mention that QD is thought to be a sought-after location so the schools tend to pay less.
4500 pm would be good for 16 to 20 contact hours pw. Less tax of course but plus airfare and accom.
Loads of privates, but I have found that overall the rate isn't worth it if you factor in commuting.


Of course the mills pay more. Much more. Be mindful though that some mills do want 35-40 hours of your time per week. You will make more than double the salary listed above for it though. I would not suggest those schools but some like it.
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Mr. English



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked a 4-month contract in Zibo from March to June 2007 at a high school, or senior middle school as they tend to call them. Air pollution can be bad, certainly significantly worse than here in Guangzhou, which is actually decent compared to U.S. cities, though it varies in Zibo and is not as bad as Beijing by a shot and more. A brief story to give some flavor: One day I went to lunch with a Chinese woman who also taught at the high school, which was on the outskirts of the city (which has more people than Jinan, over 5 million I believe, but you have to go to Jinan to catch a plane). We walked past a community garden at one point, and I said to her, "So, 10 years ago was this area mostly farming?" She answered, "5 years ago it was all farming". Small town (and the old town is certainly recognizable when you walk the city) gone to big city in 5 years. They planned well: On the outskirts the streets are gigantic 4-lane affairs to get ready for all the cars that are coming, or have come at this point (what they are doing about global warming is another matter).

Cheap place to live. Private students I guess will be tough to find, not enough wealth, but you could catch a few. Few English speakers amongst the Chinese, far far less than here in Guangzhou, though perhaps things have changed some since 2007. Small foreign community, both Caucasian and African. No good hiking anywhere close (I am a fanatic and Guangzhou is a good place for this).
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boomerexpat



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. English wrote:
No good hiking anywhere close (I am a fanatic and Guangzhou is a good place for this).


Guangzhou sounds like a place that I would like to live in which means I am having a hard time finding something there. Gotta keep pluggin'
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