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thegoodprofessor
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 Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: MOE email contact? |
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I was hired in Ibra but now am withdrawing my interest unless they negotiate with me.
They created a base pay lower than the allowances (good allowances) so that the gratuity will always be low. *And they are not willing to pay a RT airfare.
Am waiting to hear back about my counteroffer but I'm not counting on them accepting it. So am back on the job market.
I'm actually dealing with MOE. It seems each university has selected people from MOE who deal with that college.
Does anyone know how that works? It would not feel appropriate to write the same people who are recruiting me for Ibra and ask about another college.
If anyone knows how to apply directly through the MOE for Sohar University please PM me.
I understand that one Sohar Uni is fine to work for and the other as mentioned in previous post with "college" attached to its name is terrible. Let me know if I'm wrong on this. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: Re: MOE email contact? |
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| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
They created a base pay lower than the allowances (good allowances) so that the gratuity will always be low.
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This is standard and how it has always been in the Gulf... since the 80's. Even raises were normally a separate line item so that they wouldn't be included in the gratuity.
I only know of one or two employers in the UAE who give the gratuity on the full salary.
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thegoodprofessor
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: Re: MOE email contact? |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
They created a base pay lower than the allowances (good allowances) so that the gratuity will always be low.
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This is standard and how it has always been in the Gulf... since the 80's. Even raises were normally a separate line item so that they wouldn't be included in the gratuity.
I only know of one or two employers in the UAE who give the gratuity on the full salary.
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So you have seen base pays lower? What percentage of the pay have you seen for gratuity?
It is different than where I worked before in Oman. My base pay was higher and then I had the allowances about 200 r less than the base. Now it is the other way around. So perhaps my last job was the odd one.
The other surprise is that they only are offering a 1-way ticket. The extra 100 r is not is definitely not going to help much with a ticket.I made a few calls and I found out the cost is almost the same as a one-way. I'll wait a while to hear back but will start looking for a back up as well. |
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thegoodprofessor
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: Re: MOE email contact? |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
They created a base pay lower than the allowances (good allowances) so that the gratuity will always be low.
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This is standard and how it has always been in the Gulf... since the 80's. Even raises were normally a separate line item so that they wouldn't be included in the gratuity.
I only know of one or two employers in the UAE who give the gratuity on the full salary.
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So you have seen base pays lower? What percentage of the pay have you seen for gratuity?
It is different than where I worked before in Oman. My base pay was higher and then I had the allowances about 200 r less than the base. Now it is the other way around. So perhaps my last job was the odd one.
The other surprise is that they only are offering a 1-way ticket. The extra 100 r is not is definitely not going to help much with a ticket.I made a few calls and I found out the cost is almost the same as a one-way. I'll wait a while to hear back but will start looking for a back up as well. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: MOE email contact? |
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| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
So you have seen base pays lower? What percentage of the pay have you seen for gratuity?
It is different than where I worked before in Oman. My base pay was higher and then I had the allowances about 200 r less than the base. Now it is the other way around. So perhaps my last job was the odd one.
The other surprise is that they only are offering a 1-way ticket. The extra 100 r is not is definitely not going to help much with a ticket.I made a few calls and I found out the cost is almost the same as a one-way. I'll wait a while to hear back but will start looking for a back up as well. |
An employer can set the base pay pretty much where they want. I never paid any attention to percentages. One looks at the total offer. Unless one plans to be there for 10 years, the gratuity portion isn't going to be that significant anyway. You need to complete 12 months to receive any of it I believe.
I don't see the "one-way ticket" as being an issue. What they are saying is that they will fly you in... and at the end of the contract they will fly you out. Is this just a one year contract? Then this seems completely acceptable. If it is two years or more, then they normally will provide return tickets for summer leave.
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thegoodprofessor
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: contact |
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| they were not buying the ticket home, anyway I'm looking around. |
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misterkodak
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont know of any agency which brings teachers in on a round trip ticket. My agency (like most of them) has 2 options: 1).They buy your ticket for you in advance or 2). you buy your own ticket and they reimburse you. If you choose the second option, they give you a lump sum each year for tickets based on your home of record. Logically, I went with the second option as the money they pay quite a bit more than what a RT ticket to the US costs. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: Re: contact |
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| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
| they were not buying the ticket home, anyway I'm looking around. |
I'm thinking that you may have misunderstood. What obscure employer would not be flying you out at the end of a contract? That would be unheard of...
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La Reve
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: MOE |
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My base salary contract at U of Buraimi is 600. The allowances were 300. Plus paid furnished housing. If you have furniture, including air conditioners, you could get a 200 rial housing allowance.
People at U of Buraimi on their second year got a monthly 100 rial raise. (100 x 2.6 US = $260).
If your base pay is below 600, which I thought was the lowest in Oman, don't go for it.
Ibra was associated with U of Buraimi with ELS doing their English program. Not sure if that is still true. FLASHING RED LIGHTS! Approach carefully.
TATI is hiring for MOE colleges of Technology. Don't go with GlobeNet. I was with CECNE. My total pay there, with the 200 rials for housing was 1,314 a month. My housing was cheaper than the housing allowance, but I did buy my own air conditioners.
Why come to Buraimi then? I had a job in Italy, but then Greece was falling apart and Italy was on the list. The last thing I wanted was to be in northern Italy with shared accommodations, and eventually, with no money and no job. So I stayed in Oman. Turns out I've lost a lot of money on that decision.... way too much money that has gravely depleted my savings.
PS: According to the Labor Law, companies MUST fly you home. They do.
Ibra may drag its feet reimbursing you for your flight in - which U of Buraimi did - but they will reimburse you within, probably two months or so. Not right away. |
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Nolan Chance
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: MOE |
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| ...I had a job in Italy, but then Greece was falling apart and Italy was on the list. The last thing I wanted was to be in northern Italy with shared accommodations, and eventually, with no money and no job. So I stayed in Oman... |
I don't mean to be cruel, but do you really think that Oman (or any country for that matter) really wants economic refugees masquerading as teachers of EFL? |
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The Steakinator
Joined: 13 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: MOE |
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| Nolan Chance wrote: |
| La Reve wrote: |
| ...I had a job in Italy, but then Greece was falling apart and Italy was on the list. The last thing I wanted was to be in northern Italy with shared accommodations, and eventually, with no money and no job. So I stayed in Oman... |
I don't mean to be cruel, but do you really think that Oman (or any country for that matter) really wants economic refugees masquerading as teachers of EFL? |
What makes us so sure you're an EFL/ESL teacher? What qualifications do you have and do you know the qualifications of the person you're saying this to? |
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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:16 am Post subject: Re: contact |
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| thegoodprofessor wrote: |
| they were not buying the ticket home, anyway I'm looking around. |
I've never heard of this in the gulf. After you've finished one calendar year, gulf employers are obligated to buy you a ticket home. Unless you mean they wouldn't buy you a flight back after an academic year? |
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The Steakinator
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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They have to pay to send you back, it's article 56 in the labor law: http://www.manpower.gov.om/en/law_wages_leaves.asp
The only way they can avoid paying for your ticket home is if you get another job (under a different sponsor, not just a change in position) and then they will release you to that employer. The other option is that you take a portion of the money for the ticket to your point of origin. As far as I know, that is the only situation in which they don't have to provide a ticket home or to your point of origin. |
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