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freebeacher
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 Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:04 am Post subject: Z Visa Converted To Long Term |
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Hello. I was offered a sample contract for a job in China. Ther F.A.O. wrote me and said
"When you come to us with a work visa (Z), we will change that into a multiple entry long term work visa. Once you get that no matter how many years you want to work in China you do not have to go back for visa issues, provided that you extend your contract with us or another institution in China."
Is this true? I thought I haad to renew annually. When the school says not having to "go back" do they mean to my home country's Chinese consulate or to immigration in general inside China?
So, I can complete the contract with the school and then apply for work at another school the next year and not need any more immigration formalities? How long is this status valid? Can I work for another type of employer like an international bank too? Thanks. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:30 am Post subject: Re: Z Visa Converted To Long Term |
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| freebeacher wrote: |
Hello. I was offered a sample contract for a job in China. Ther F.A.O. wrote me and said
"When you come to us with a work visa (Z), we will change that into a multiple entry long term work visa. Once you get that no matter how many years you want to work in China you do not have to go back for visa issues, provided that you extend your contract with us or another institution in China."
Is this true? I thought I haad to renew annually. When the school says not having to "go back" do they mean to my home country's Chinese consulate or to immigration in general inside China?
So, I can complete the contract with the school and then apply for work at another school the next year and not need any more immigration formalities? How long is this status valid? Can I work for another type of employer like an international bank too? Thanks. |
I think what he means is your Z visa will be converted to a Residency Permit (standard procedure). A RP allows multiple entries for the period it's valid for (usually 1 year for teachers).
If you stay at the same job or simply find another job in China while the RP is still valid you can have it extended without the need to leave the country.
I believe there is a '5 year rule' that states you must leave China for 1 year if you've been here continually for 5 years, but I haven't actually heard of anyone being told to leave.
Regarding working for other places, that's technically up to your employer if you can have another job. I believe it's in the SAFEA contract along the lines of 'Party B will not undertake extra work without Party A's concent'. You being Party B and Party A your employer. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Just a point for clarity, you don't actually extend an existing residence permit, you apply for and get a completely new one pasted into your passport.
The five year rule has to be an urban myth because the only place I've ever heard of it is on the pages of this forum. Posters on here have reported that some schools invoke the "five year rule" in order to get rid of a teacher they no longer want. If they want to get rid of someone at any point in time they just don't offer a new contract. They don't need to wait five years to do that. |
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GeminiTiger
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| 7969 wrote: |
The five year rule has to be an urban myth because the only place I've ever heard of it is on the pages of this forum. . |
I've been offered two jobs in Sichuan province with different schools only to have them rescinded later because of the 5-year rule. One school I had already signed a contract with. I do believe that the 5-year rule is an actual piece of enforced policy in this province. The exact nature of this rule is that it must be five consecutive years of having a resident permit and was told that if I go to another country to teach for a year or return home for a year that I should contact the school that cancelled withdrew my contract. They also paid me over 6,000 rmb for my travel expenses.
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Z Visa Converted To Long Term |
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| freebeacher wrote: |
Is this true? I thought I haad to renew annually. When the school says not having to "go back" do they mean to my home country's Chinese consulate or to immigration in general inside China?
So, I can complete the contract with the school and then apply for work at another school the next year and not need any more immigration formalities? How long is this status valid? Can I work for another type of employer like an international bank too? Thanks. |
contracts are usually 10 months to one year. you don't need to renew
your z-visa, which has in fact been cancelled. but you don't need to get
a new visa to enter china, since you's already here. UNLESS you let
the residence permit expire, in which you most likely must return home
to start over.
no immigration formalities, if you mean entry visas. but you still need
to get a new RP, a new or updated FEC, a new police registration, etc.
i don't believe the z-visa/FEC/RP is tied to any specific industry, but
rather to the individual employer. if you get a job offer from a bank,
you 'should' be able to switch at the end of the contract just as if
it were another school. [can anyone disprove this?] |
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