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haleynicole14



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: CELTA courses Reply with quote

Can anyone recommend an affordable CELTA course location? Are they all the exact same, just in different locations, or are they of varying quality? I have a TESL certificate and am thinking CELTA might be a good next step. I've done a search for programs but there are so many choices. Links or program names would be helpful if you have them. Thank you!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a TEFL cert from an onsite course of at least 100 hours that included supervised teaching practice with real students, you probably don't need a CELTA. In this case, you would just need to highlight the key bits (onsite, 100+, tp) on your CV so that employers know you have an equivalent.

If your TEFL cert was a very short course or online, then I agree a CELTA is a logical next step.

It does not matter where you take a CELTA. They aren't all exactly the same, of course, but they are all within the standard range.

Because no-one takes the course more than once, any one of us could rave about, say, CELTA in Prague in 2010 - but, by now, the trainers are unlikely to be the same exact group and things may have changed in other ways as well.

If you are going for the name brand CELTA, then any centre that suits you in terms of location and price will be suitable. A lot depends on your travel distances, obviously. If you're based in the UK, any CELTA in continental Europe will work out cheaper than any one in Latin America, for example.

One idea is to take the course in the country where you want to start teaching. There are lots of potential advantages. A good training centre is a useful bridge into country/culture. They usually arrange for logistics like airport pickup and local orientation. Your fellow trainees can form your first social network, and your practice teaching students will be really representative of those you'll be working with when you start.

This is most applicable if you are going someplace where employers don't hire from abroad and you are on your own when you arrive otherwise.
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haleynicole14



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
If your TEFL cert was a very short course or online, then I agree a CELTA is a logical next step.


Thanks for your help! The TEFL certificate that I have was an online course provided by my recruiter when I was leaving for China. I don't feel like it did much to prepare me but it is a certificate... is it common for schools to ask how the TEFL certificate was obtained? Aside from that, I see the CELTA as a way to improve my teaching skills and obtain more desirable jobs. But if there's not much point in getting it with what I have now, I don't want to spend the time or money if I don't need to.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The TEFL certificate that I have was an online course provided by my recruiter when I was leaving for China. But if there's not much point in getting it with what I have now, I don't want to spend the time or money if I don't need to


As I wrote before, if your course was online you need something onsite, wtih supervised teaching practice, like a CELTA.

An online cert from a recruiter for China will NOT help you outside of China.

In your situation, I would go for the CELTA next.
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HK_GURU



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP as Spiral 78 has tried to politely point out you think you have a qualification but you really don't. It may as well have come out of a cereal box. As far as certificates go the CELTA is the one that is widely recognised and which is in large part due to the fact that it involves supervised practicum.

If you are looking for cheap places ECC (I think) in Thailand is reasonable and you could also consider Vietnam. Although such locations would only be cost effective if you are still in Asia.

Also keep in mind that a CELTA is really only an entry level qualification. To move up into the better positions a higher degree is close to essential in most cases. Good luck.
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Tudor



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are looking for cheap places ECC (I think) in Thailand is reasonable and you could also consider Vietnam. Although such locations would only be cost effective if you are still in Asia.


Taken from ECC's website...

http://www.eccthai.com/training/celtafaq.asp#Q5

Is age a factor?
No, but we have found that the longer candidates have been away from a learning environment, the slower their rate of assimilation. Also, older trainees sometimes have difficulties relating to younger ones and a team environment is essential on a course of this nature. Furthermore, we have found older trainees can have fixed ideas about grammar, which are not in keeping with current usage.


So, as long as you're not "older" (30s? 40s? 50s?) I'm sure this mob will fit the bill.

I wonder what view Cambridge ESOL would take of ECC's "fixed idea" of older candidates...

OP, there have been countless discussions on here about the CELTA course - have a look at the newbie forum where there are two threads alone on the first page, one of which contains a link to another thread.
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as certificates go the CELTA is the one that is widely recognised


This is the key point - at least in Europe. Because CELTA (and its Trinity equivalent) are so well known, employers want to see one or the other. If a candidate says, "oh, but I've got a TEFL certificate from China" the employer doesn't know what that is, or if it's standardised in any way, or if it is in any way similar to the CELTA. So the employer - who has little time to sift through applications as it is - will just pass you over and go on to the next applicant. [/code]
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santi84



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what future location the OP is interested in but just to let her know, CELTA is also recognized here in North America (although a degree + CELTA alone is generally not competitive).

An online TEFL from a Chinese recruiter would get a resume tossed in the trash here.
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