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[Ger]

that I work at a tutorial centre and have applied for a PGDE (part-time), but to be eligible for the programme you have to be working at a school, but you aren't allowed to work at a school without a PGDE. Any solutions besides the full-time mode of study since I have to earn bread?

[prplfairy]

Actaully, you don't need a PGCE to work at a primary school. I have several friends working at primary schools who are working on their PGCE at HKU part-time (that takes two years as opposed to one year full-time) and others who are working at primary schools without PGCEs and without having enrolled in a PGCE program. At a secondary school I'm pretty sure you do need one though. I beleive you just need a degree, some experience and a TEFL/TESOL cert for a primary school. You are right though that you do need to be working at a school to be in the program.

[Freddie_Unbelievable]

prplfairy,

You should give advice to encourage study. Shame on you!

[prplfairy]

I never told this person to not study. I provided a solution that would allow him/her to study and teach. Isn't that the whole point? That he needed a way to work and study, thus escaping his/her catch 22?

[Ludwig]

'Ger', it seems quite obvious to me at least that if it really were the case that one could not enroll on and attend a PGDE course unless one is employed at a school, and if it really were the case that one could not be employed at a school unless one has a PGDE, then no one would be either working at a school or able to attend a PGDE, at all, ever.

There is as much 'Catch 22' in this (vacuous) statement of yours as there is in the following (putative 'Catch 22') statement: You can't play basketball unless you are tall but unless you are tall you can't play basketball.

It�s not so much a �Catch 22, no win situation� as more an instance of tautology.

Though it is certainly the case that you cannot enroll on or attend a PGDE course unless you are currently employed at a school (for, I believe, obvious enough reasons), it is certainly NOT the case that you need a PGDE to be employed at a school in Hong Kong.

However, and I hypothesis that this is the cause of your obvious confusion, I would be most surprised indeed if employment at "a tutorial centre" would make one eligible for the PGDE at the Chinese University of Hong Kong (which, I presume, is the course to which you have been attracted).

I completed my PGDE there over a two-year timeframe and there were certainly no students on the course who held employment outside of the state sector.

[Ger]

Ludwig, my dear, you have baffled me with your brilliance.

The PGDE (part-time) primary that I mentioned is not at City University, but that uni. is offering a PG ELE (with an 8 week practicum, English major and no minor) recognised by EMB on par with PGDE.

[khmerhit]

Dr Bertrand --back on board!!

[Ger]

The up-dated news is that the tertiary institute to which I applied in order to study for a PGDE has rejected my application.

So Lancaster's MA TESOL is the next option, but despite having asked three times over a period of months, my former academic lecturers haven't written references, which are required for the application for the MA TESOL. What is this business of not looking at original certificates and only accepting certified copies. How difficult is it to get certified copies when you're working full-time?

[Eunoia]

What exactly is a "PGDE" anyway? "Post-Graduate Degree in Education"?

[Mark-O]

[Rice Paddy Daddy]

Are these good enough to get into the NET program in Hong Kong?

so, one could study the PCGE part time in Hong Kong at City University for 2 years and then apply to the NET program?

[Mark-O]