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advice/help, finding a uni. job in shanghai

 
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pickle005



Joined: 05 May 2004
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Location: US/Shanghai

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: advice/help, finding a uni. job in shanghai Reply with quote

ok folks, totally new to this board, so plz. be gentle...

thinking about doing a uni. stint in shanghai. how exactly do i go about finding job opp.? do they require certs? those of you that have done uni. in SH, how was it? thanks in advance.

jay
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Clancy



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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try searching Google for teaching in China.
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ChinaLady



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Location: Guangzhou, Guangdong PRC

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Teaching in Shanghai? Reply with quote

yes, you need real degrees, they will check. either a cert for ESL or several years of experience.
I really enjoyed Shanghai but it is spendy to go out for entertainment.
agree with the above. try Google.
big schools are Fudan, Shanghai Normal Univer, and Shanghai Univer of Foreign Studies. they usually hire friend of a friend of a friend but have been know to pick up a "newbie" with an MA and experience in the field.
good luck!
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Victoria



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching in Shanghai? Reply with quote

ChinaLady wrote:
yes, you need real degrees, ........... or several years of experience.


that is not a degree(s).....
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Lee_Odden



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching in Shanghai? Reply with quote

Victoria wrote:
ChinaLady wrote:
yes, you need real degrees, ........... or several years of experience.


that is not a degree(s).....


ChinaLady actually wrote:
either a cert for ESL or several years of experience


"Or several years of experience" was written as an alternative to the ESL certificate, not the degree.

Yes, you need a minimum of a bachelor's degree to be a foreign expert in China (which is necessary in order to receive a work or Z-Visa). However, in poorer or less desirable (cold, polluted) cities, private English language schools will "generate" a degree for you and will secure the foreign expert papers based on the "new" degree. But then, you are doing business with an unscrupulous school and you will suffer for that in a variety of ways, believe me. In Shanghai, Beijing and other such places, you will need a degree or an excellent forgery with a matching transcript (a couple I know just found employment in Shanghai using the "instant degree" method). A lot of people do that in China but if you get caught you will most likey lose your job and your Z-Visa. Does anyone know if you get deported (for falsifying degrees) or does the PSB simply take the green-book and revert you to a tourist L-Visa?

Whatever you do, especially if you do not have a degree, do not let anyone (particularly recruiters) talk you into coming here to work on a L- or F- (business) visa. Even if you have a degree, it's a big mistake to come to China to work with anything but a Z-Visa. So, be careful.
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Clancy



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee is spot on!
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Victoria



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching in Shanghai? Reply with quote

ChinaLady actually wrote:
either a cert for ESL or several years of experience

Lee_Odden wrote:
"Or several years of experience" was written as an alternative to the ESL certificate, not the degree.



gggg ... smarty punch to you ...
As I underlined: several years of experience DOESN'T give you an ESL certificate....!

There is NO alternative. What part of "certificate' you do not understand?

You, as well as ChinaLady, are explaining that several years of experiences are equable to an ESL certificate...

FYI - Most Chinese schools could care less about your MA, BA or BS, they only care for your EFL.....

you are deluding yourself into your panty...
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