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jenny-pnet · Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 59

Does anyone know what the situation is for teachers wishing to do supply work at international schools? I know that previously anyone who had a dependency visa was eligible, but for any dependent spouses who have arrived since August last year, they are not entitled to work, unless they get working visas in their own right. But to simply do supply work - not a fulltime position - how is this possible?
Also, if a person leaves their current employment in HK, does that mean their working visa is no longer valid? Do they have to reapply for a new working visa if they get a new job?
Many thanks if you are able to help.

prplfairy · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102

Without the proper visa you can't do any type of paid work. You can usually get around that sort of thing with learning centres and agencies but I don't think an International School would play ball with someone without the proprer paperwork.

I think I've answered this a few times but here we go: If you have a work visa and change jobs at the end of the visa then you apply for an extension to the visa not a new visa, you only change the sponsor. That is, if the job is in the same field, e.g. going from one teaching job to another. It takes significantly less time than the original visa and is pretty much a rubber stamp. If you are changing jobs in the middle of the visa then all you do is apply for a change of sponsorship, also a rubber stmap. The point is that the original work visa is a bit drawn out but subsequent extension and so forth are pretty easy. Hope that helps.

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

prplfairy,

Do you work for immigration now?

The rules have changed. I suggest you check out the new policies.

Visit any immigration centre and you will see.

once again · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815

As you seem to know Freddy, on what points has prplfairy erred and can you give us the correct advice then?

jenny-pnet · Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 59

But with the new regulations, how do International Schools manage to find sufficient qualified staff now to do supply work? Do they draw on local Chinese teachers instead of expats?

prplfairy · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102

International schools probably rely on expat teachers who have HK residence, you get that after 7 years here, although I don't know for sure. They can work as many jobs as they like.

I apologize if any of the information I gave was outdated, although after looking at the immigration dept. website I don't think it is. As far as I know the dependent laws are the only immigration laws that changed last year. If that is the case then all one would need to do is fill out form ID91, a short form, rather than the entire work visa form, ID 936, with all the work history nonsense and so on because they already have all that info on file from when you did it the first time. So it only takes 1-2 weeks to get the extension as compared to 4-6 weeks for the first visa. I don't think any of that has changed. If it has I'd like to know where on the website, a link, etc, that info is.

I changed employers last year in August/September and all I needed was an extension, not to reapply for the visa from step one. I've also changed employers before in HK mid-visa. So i was speaking from experience.

Susie · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 390 Location: PRC

so if a foreigner is a dependant married to a HK Chinese person, are you saying that the foreigner has to apply for a job to sponsor him/her and then apply to immigration for an employment visa?

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

It's the other way around.

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

It also depends on what type of visa you need!

once again · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815

Freddie, you seem to have a lot to say, or rather you seem to be saying nothing rather a lot. Please tell us where prplfairy has erred and the meaning of your last comments. I am sure this topic will in time get lots of views and so your knowledge would be helpful to others.

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

It would be much better if you read their website. Better yet, if you went to visit their offices.

Hope that helps!

prplfairy · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102

Freddie says: It would be much better if you read their website. Better yet, if you went to visit their offices.

Translation: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about and please disregard all of my previous comments on the subject.

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

Translation: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about and please disregard all of my previous comments on the subject.

Reality: I'm Lost in Translation

once again · Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815

"Final word: anyone married to a Hong Kong citizen will get a valid ID card and it is all you need to get a job anywhere. So, get married to a Hong Konger."

Not sure what you mean here by "valid", but I am under the impression that marriage will get you a dependant visa, which does not allow you to work since the changes in July 2003.

Freddie_Unbelievable · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 288

Your wrong once again!

If you marry a local it is different than if you marry a visa holder.

But, hongkonger, why would you marry a selfish local girl when you can have a caring mainlander?