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jaybet3 · Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 140 Location: Indonesia

Since this is a new requirement, I wonder if anyone knows if the following documents would be enough to satisfy "proof of experience" requirement.

An ORIGINAL reference letter stating dates of employment signed by the employer.

A COPY of a reference letter stating dates of employment signed by the employer.

A COPY of an Employment Contract (with my original signature) stating dates of employment signed by the employer.

Then, I could have a US Consulate notarized them.

Any ideas whether this would be good enough?

Thanks.

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

Good God that's overkill. They just check your resume.

jaybet3 · Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 140 Location: Indonesia

Maybe, but a recent ad on this website listed under requirements:

"and proof of two years experience minimum are a must"

To me, proof means more than something I've written on a CV.

So, anyone recently applying for a job come across this requirement?

3701 W.119th · Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China

Hi OP.

I don't think it's a new requirement (it was in place when I came here in 2014), but a picture (taken on your phone) of the back of a fag packet, signed 'Joe Bloggs', would meet this. This is assuming your school is able to hire foreigners, and want you for the job. The admin would just think you taught at Lambert & Butler.

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

I wonder if they crack down on this how it would affect people.

If it were as stringently done as say the Middle East.

I say that because I've never received any confirmation of working somewhere, for instance I've never received a letter stating I worked there except the release letter which is then handed on to the PSB or FEC office.

Strangely enough I found most employers in China to be quite irritable when dealing with you moving to a different job, alot of times they are quite spiteful even if you did a good job!

Mingvase · Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 62

I had an interview with WS and I just had to send in a reference letter covering 2 years. That was sufficient for me to get the interview although I wasn't offered the job in the end. Dunno why but anyway 16000 without housing and pretax isn't THAT much is it?

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

If 16000 is in a big city and without housing and pretax that's bad. Take off tax of about 2000 and then a good 5000 or 6000 for a decent house, 500-1000 for bills maybe and you've suddenly got 6000-7000 left to spend for a month. So that's not that great.

13000 + housing in a big city is better than 16000.

Shanghai Noon · Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China

jimpellow · Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913

Yeah, some jurisdictions are requiring to see the 2 years. It typically seems to be on the reference letters now. I have not heard of them needing to be authenticated in any way, but I am sure that time will come considering how things are trending.

"I had an interview with WS and I just had to send in a reference letter covering 2 years. That was sufficient for me to get the interview although I wasn't offered the job in the end. Dunno why but anyway 16000 without housing and pretax isn't THAT much is it?"

I don't know how Wall Street is still in business. Their pay has stayed almost the same for years. Low pay for a lot of classroom hours in a Tier 1 city where you must pay for housing. I believe you get taxed on the gross too.

I would gander you didn't get the job as the branch managers seem to find every reason not to hire people, despite the fact that the branches are reportedly quite short staffed.

Mingvase · Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 62

16000 is the most I have seen advertised for a job in China. Show me more!
The reference I gave was sufficient. I could have written it myself if I hadn't had one sent to me by my supervisor. I keep it in my files just in case.

Mingvase · Joined: 19 Jan 2016 Posts: 62

PS I don't know why he didn't hire me either. They keep advertising for teachers all the time. I'm looking at Korea at the moment now cos they prepay the airfare so you can't get screwed when you get there.

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou · Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003

CNexpatesl · Joined: 27 May 2015 Posts: 194

WS tries to sell you a useless TEFL program as well.

Had a WS recruiter try to set up an interview with me last year. He then went on to say he noticed I didn't have a TEFL certificate, and that we wouldn't be able to go on with the interview until I had one, even though I sent him my copy. He apologized for the mistake, then said he would schedule an interview with me later. Never heard back from him. Laughing

I wonder how many people they're ripping off.

happeningthang · Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Posts: 117

Where I am - it is now a new requirement that you have two years of teaching experience. - AND you need to prove it.

In the past all you needed was your CV and schools or recruiters would just re-write them so their candidate had teaching experience.

Now you need to prove it beyond that and what I'm told by our Foreign Expert's Office - that will mean references from employers as well as the CV.

OP - you are going a bit overboard.

The reference letters should be enough - the contract (if you have it) would be a nice addition.

Beyond that is not necessary.

Longer · Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 28