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Badboy Blue

I am now in the stage of aggressively looking for work in Beijing. I know I don't have the "home court" advantage of being there for an interview. Sad

But am I expecting too much in the way of salery?
What is the salery norm in Beijing for someone coming off the boat?
Officially, some places say its in the ballpark of around 3,000~4,000Yuan a month, for a public position. Is it worth taking a job like that?
What about private institutes?
I heard they pay more, but the hours are horrendously long.
Also, what is the correct going rate now for foreign teachers doing privates?
Is it as illegal as it is here in Korea?
I hope someone could shed some light on the matter.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

They pay more if you can spell or know how to use a spell-checker.

Louis · Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 275 Location: Beautiful Taiyuan

Badboy Blue · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:11 am Post subject:

Gee Thanks~~~

But...

"Dammit, Jim" I say, " I'm a teacher not a "spelling bee champion"

So you are always correct? Confused

I'm trying to get info from others not enter into a spelling contest.

If you want, I know I would lose (or should I write "luze", since I'm a taeribel spellar) Cool

You think my english spelling is bad, you should see me when I try to write in Korean, Spanish or even Russian. I'm much worse in those languages.

Unfortunately, I have no prize to give except "thanks" for spotting my errors ~ or is it erers....?
gee...I don't know? Smile

nolefan · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run

As far as public universities go, do not settle for anything below 4000/ month plus the usual extras unless you have a special reason to do so!

There are plenty of fish in the sea when it comes to those guys!

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Usually, schools want to get a teacher and pay them as little as possible.
Though, I've been told that you can bargain. If you have qualifications and experience, ask the schools for more money.

Teacher Lindsay · Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Luxian, Sichuan

Badboy Blue

Have a look at my "Sharing information - just for the hell of it." post in the Off-Topic section. RMB6,200 per month for 25 classes of 40 minutes duration, per week + other benefits.

The company I work for is Wancheng International Education Centre and they are currently recruiting for Hengyang, Chongqing, Chengdu and provincial Sichuan.

Here is a link to their ad:-

http://host159.ipowerweb.com/~eslteach/cgi-bin/China/index.pl?read=1082

Cheers

MarcusK · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:

nolefan · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run

bdawg · Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 526 Location: Nanjing

Kind of off topic...but what would be the best way one would go about negotiating salary with a university?

I'm looking to get a university job for September...I have a BA and a 120hr TESOL certification...along with a tiny bit of substitute teaching experience. Maybe I'm a greedy kid fresh out of school, but I feel that I'm worth a little more than the standard 2500-3000RMD number (with benefits...lodging, food, utilities, airfare) I've seen offered from most universities.

paisleyavenger · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 19 Location: South Korea

Clancy · Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 162

Peking in Beijing and Fudan in Shanghai pay 3,500 for 18 hours.

2nd tier like Shenzhen Poly and others pay 6,000 for 18 hours.

Normals pay 4,000 for 18 hours.

Degree level also has a bearing, as does location and university ranking.

The more famous the uni or desirable the location, the lower the pay.

Badboy Blue · Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:44 am Post subject:

To those of you who show increasing amount of "concern" for my bad spelling, oops! sorry.

But...look at it this way;

1. Maybe I was in a rush to get some info from people to make a last-minute decision and couldn't worry too much between the spelling of
"salery" and "salary"

2. Maybe I was trying to show that I am versatile and demonstrating my "artistic licence", something that hasn't been done since F. Scott Fitzgerald (now I'll wait and see who'll criticize me for spelling his name wrong.)

3. Or maybe I just wanted to poke fun at the so-called professionals some of you claim to be. (I have been a teacher for about 3 and a half years and I am by no means referring to myself as perfect)

But for the rest of you who are giving me true advice and guidance, thank you OH SO MUCH!!!

PLEASE keep it coming...........

p.s.~ I DID write salery on an application for employment at a fortune 500 company and they were about to hire me Very Happy

....unfortunate for me, I chose to come to Korea Sad

Badboy Blue · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:57 am Post subject:

Dajiba~~Cool

And yeah you're right Laughing

But its not as bad as the time I went to the ESLworld website and saw a person's ad with the title "I'm looking for the best Celery"
Rolling Eyes

lagerlout2006 · Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 985

In Korea there is a 'norm"-2 million...In China there are always a lot of things to consider. My first time arriving I was stressed out deciding between 2 offers. Harbin for 7000 or a city in Zhejiang for 3500. Looks like no choice at all..(Location did not matter since I had never been here.) Looking closer Harbin was twice the money but also twice the hours. 25-and more office time- vs 14..Harbin was 6 days with Tuesday off. Zjejiang was Mon-Thurs. All block hours..Harbin was all \ages while Zhej. was only teachers college students...

All I can say is thank God Harbin pulled the offer...Zhej offered me extras so the money was not much different...The Harbin school were also placing more job ads before a month was up...They still do---meaning they have a ridiculous turnover..What is my point? Wink

I guess that there is no norm and really celery Wink

should not be an issue...If I want more celery I will take my degree and try my luck in Taiwan or Korea.