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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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 Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Korean serial killer, Yu Yeong Cheol |
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My dear friends, I trust you are all in fine fettle and aren�t letting the plummeting KRW depress you too much. As I type, I'm sipping a delicious glass of port and cognac whilst smoking a particularly lovely macanudo cigar acquired from Itaewon this evening.
Anyway, you'll gasp with disbelief when you take in what I'm about to say, but this is the God's honest truth.
My recollection of the details are poor, but basically, household name and infamous serial killer, Yu Yeong Cheol, killed over 20 Koreans in Seoul in 2005 - mostly elderly and usually women, if memory serves. He often buried his victims. He was found guilty and sentenced to death. I'm not sure if he's been executed, however, and haven't the patience to look.
Well, that's the boring bit! Get a load of this though. You couldn't make it up! Mr Yu attended the middle school I have worked at for 2 and a half years. My colleagues, who I have an excellent relationship with, hid this fact from me deliberately until days ago when it came out. We were talking about 'No Country for Old Men' and I described the plot to them.....and out popped Mr Yu, thanks to my vivid account of Anton Chigurh, the gentleman in my avatar. They said they always wanted to tell me - because we mostly share an interest in the bizarre, foul and base - but didn't want me to tell other foreign people because it would embarrass Korea. Dear me.
Anyway, I of course explained that I will tell other foreigners because a notorious serial killer once having roamed the bare, dirty halls of my beloved school is a badge of honor. In any case, crime in the West is an embarrassment. One Korean lunatic is not an embarrassment. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Quite miss-read your post with tired eyes.
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Carlyles Ghost
Joined: 04 Jul 2007
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| On the lighter side....Lee Jun-ki (the pretty-boy actor from the King and the Clown and those atrocious pomegranate juice ads from 2005/06) went to my Middle School near Busan. I hear he's a pretty nasty kick-boxer. |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Did any of the teachers at your school know him personally. Might make an interesting study. Psychological profile and all. Could even get it published. We all have a morbid fascination with these individuals and what drove them. Truman Capote set the ball in motion with his "In Cold Blood". Now every biographical profile of a serial murderer is compared to it, when it tries to explain the inner workings of a serial killers mind.
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I do not believe there have been any executions in Korea for the past 10 years. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I also had an indirect brush with the evil that is Yoo Young-Cheol.
First, a few points of clarification.
Yoo was given the death penalty, but there was an appeal, and while he awaited his appeal the National Assembly voted to ban the death penalty. So he hasn't been executed, and I assume will never be even if the law were to be overturned.
His victims -- True, most came from two general groups, women and the elderly. But 'victim' doesn't always mean 'target' in Yoo's case. Yes, he did actively target young women, specificially sex workers or girls he thought might be. He had/has a real intense hatred for this type of person. These were his "motiveless" murders.
His other group of victims, however, the elderly... It wasn't the elderly, per se, but their (big, fancy, relatively easy-to-burgle) homes that were his primary target. Once inside, sure, he killed them because they were: a) wealthy, and b) potential witnesses. Oh, and because he's a fking vicious, heartless, conscienceless, bloodthirsty madman. That too.
Yoo explained his motives to the TV camera: "Women shouldn't be sluts, and the rich should know what they've done."
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At the time of his capture, [Yoo] was quoted as saying he had an urge to rob houses that were equipped with security cameras. He later said, "I may have the devil inside me." He targeted wealthy residences, and if a person was home, they would be stabbed to death. There would be no witnesses.
During his spree of robberies and murders, Jeong held a woman for ransom, robbed thirteen homes, and killed nine people. Some of them were elderly victims. |
Okay, getting to my "Brush with Evil" now...
[GRISLY AND DISTURBING -- PROCEED AT OWN RISK]
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On October 9, [2003] Yoo took the subway to Bulgwang Station and took a taxi to Gugi Tunnel. He walked until he found a church, and then he found an expensive looking house in the affluent neighborhood. He noticed there was no security system and it had a surrounding wall and an inner garden. He watched the movement of people inside through the window and then climbed the wall wearing gloves. He landed in some fine gravel, then walked over it, careful of noise, with his homemade hammer in hand.
Perhaps Grandmother Kang heard the front door open as she stepped out of the bathroom and was looking to see who came home. Yoo smashed the 85-year old woman three or four times in the head near the front door. At that moment, the mother came down the stairs into the living room. Yoo kicked her twice in the stomach and asked the 60-year-old housewife if there were more people in the house. Mrs. Lee said that her husband and son were upstairs, and Yoo hammered her skull until he was certain she was dead. Scrambling up to the second floor, Yoo ran into Mr. Go, the 35-year-old son, and forced him to kneel down. Yoo hit him eight to nine times until his skull caved in and left him on the stairs.
He looked around the second floor but couldn't find Mrs. Lee's husband. While searching the house, Yoo found a safe and scatted various contents around to disguise the crime scene as a robbery. He double-checked to make sure no one was still alive and then he cleaned his footprints with a towel. Yoo walked back to the Gugi Tunnel and took a taxi back to Bulgwang Station. |
That was October 2003. Between late November and I think January 2004, I made several extensive tours of what I'm 95% sure was that very same house and garden, mainly just to check it out, but with the possibility of making a counteroffer. (95%? More like 99.99% sure. I mean, how many "85-yr-old halmonies" got murdered in that tiny corner of Seoul in late 2003, which is what I heard then?)
I was not told and thus had no clue at the time about the multiple murders that took place there, though I did get a sense that something was amiss both from the people who let us in and, by the second or third visit, from the realtor. In the end, it was my plumber who claimed to have found out there was a murder there.
Many Koreans will freak out and refuse to buy a place if they hear some aged person simply died there of natural causes. But something like this.... I could easily imagine someone deciding to just bulldoze the place. Of course at that time, even though some people knew about the murders there, nobody in the world yet knew of Yoo Young-cheol and his infamy. |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju
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Check out the Wikipedia site, and add to it. They are looking for someone to add to the site as it is. Don't have time otherwise i would
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo_Young-chul
Justin Hale what is the name of your school. I would like to submit that to wikipedia |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
I also had an indirect brush with the evil that is Yoo Young-Cheol.
First, a few points of clarification.
Yoo was given the death penalty, but there was an appeal, and while he awaited his appeal the National Assembly voted to ban the death penalty. So he hasn't been executed, and I assume will never be even if the law were to be overturned.
His victims -- True, most came from two general groups, women and the elderly. But 'victim' doesn't always mean 'target' in Yoo's case. Yes, he did actively target young women, specificially sex workers or girls he thought might be. He had/has a real intense hatred for this type of person. These were his "motiveless" murders.
His other group of victims, however, the elderly... It wasn't the elderly, per se, but their (big, fancy, relatively easy-to-burgle) homes that were his primary target. Once inside, sure, he killed them because they were: a) wealthy, and b) potential witnesses. Oh, and because he's a fking vicious, heartless, conscienceless, bloodthirsty madman. That too.
Yoo explained his motives to the TV camera: "Women shouldn't be sluts, and the rich should know what they've done."
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At the time of his capture, [Yoo] was quoted as saying he had an urge to rob houses that were equipped with security cameras. He later said, "I may have the devil inside me." He targeted wealthy residences, and if a person was home, they would be stabbed to death. There would be no witnesses.
During his spree of robberies and murders, Jeong held a woman for ransom, robbed thirteen homes, and killed nine people. Some of them were elderly victims. |
Okay, getting to my "Brush with Evil" now...
[GRISLY AND DISTURBING -- PROCEED AT OWN RISK]
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On October 9, [2003] Yoo took the subway to Bulgwang Station and took a taxi to Gugi Tunnel. He walked until he found a church, and then he found an expensive looking house in the affluent neighborhood. He noticed there was no security system and it had a surrounding wall and an inner garden. He watched the movement of people inside through the window and then climbed the wall wearing gloves. He landed in some fine gravel, then walked over it, careful of noise, with his homemade hammer in hand.
Perhaps Grandmother Kang heard the front door open as she stepped out of the bathroom and was looking to see who came home. Yoo smashed the 85-year old woman three or four times in the head near the front door. At that moment, the mother came down the stairs into the living room. Yoo kicked her twice in the stomach and asked the 60-year-old housewife if there were more people in the house. Mrs. Lee said that her husband and son were upstairs, and Yoo hammered her skull until he was certain she was dead. Scrambling up to the second floor, Yoo ran into Mr. Go, the 35-year-old son, and forced him to kneel down. Yoo hit him eight to nine times until his skull caved in and left him on the stairs.
He looked around the second floor but couldn't find Mrs. Lee's husband. While searching the house, Yoo found a safe and scatted various contents around to disguise the crime scene as a robbery. He double-checked to make sure no one was still alive and then he cleaned his footprints with a towel. Yoo walked back to the Gugi Tunnel and took a taxi back to Bulgwang Station. |
That was October 2003. Between late November and I think January 2004, I made several extensive tours of what I'm 95% sure was that very same house and garden, mainly just to check it out, but with the possibility of making a counteroffer. (95%? More like 99.99% sure. I mean, how many "85-yr-old halmonies" got murdered in that tiny corner of Seoul in late 2003, which is what I heard then?)
I was not told and thus had no clue at the time about the multiple murders that took place there, though I did get a sense that something was amiss both from the people who let us in and, by the second or third visit, from the realtor. In the end, it was my plumber who claimed to have found out there was a murder there.
Many Koreans will freak out and refuse to buy a place if they hear some aged person simply died there of natural causes. But something like this.... I could easily imagine someone deciding to just bulldoze the place. Of course at that time, even though some people knew about the murders there, nobody in the world yet knew of Yoo Young-cheol and his infamy. |
So what was the asking price and why didnt you buy that house? |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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The wikipedia entry says he tended to eat their livers.
Does anyone know what evidence eventually led to his capture?
The only other Korean serial killings I know of happened in Hwaseong, near Suwon. I saw the movie "Memories of a Murder" (살인의 추억 ) which tells the true story. I don't want to say any more about it for fear of spoiling, but it's absolutely chilling. |
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mrgiles
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Location: Seoul
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| I'm sipping a delicious glass of port and cognac |
u mean together?? sounds disgusting! |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| So what was the asking price and why didnt you buy that house? |
Asking price -- I think it was somewhere around 1.4~1.6 bil. won, which although out of my price range, seemed very reasonable-to-underpriced given a place of that size and that condition and in that particular area. So that's what interested me. I also recall it wasn't originally on my go-see list, it was just near (same two-block radius) as other places that I was going to check out.
Didn't buy it -- IIRC, the house carried very little debt and was in depressingly good condition. I prefer places that need lots of help or have some glaring defects (glaring though ultimately remediable if you know how & have the time)... something that I can use to bash the price way down and that scares off the competition. But there was nothing. Okay, there was a big circular water stain on the wood flooring in one of the main rooms. I asked someone there what caused it; they didn't live there, they didn't know. This just wasn't going to work. Sure was a lovely home, though. Tortured myself by going back a couple more times, dragging an electrician & plumber along to check it out.
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| Does anyone know what evidence eventually led to his capture? |
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/yoo_young_cheol/1.html |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Len8 wrote: |
| Did any of the teachers at your school know him personally. |
No.
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| Justin Hale what is the name of your school. I would like to submit that to wikipedia |
I'll PM you, since obviously I'd rather not have my place of work broadcast to the awful characters on here.  |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Guy flipped out when his wife left him. Could be a reason to hate and kill women. Not everyone kills women when something like that happens though.
I remmember seeing him on TV leading the police and reporters to where he disposed of his victims. He wore a mask to conceal his face. Can't for the life of me figure out why police here allow that. Dude is imprisoned for life, so what's with this. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Last year there was a 70-year-old man who murdered 4 people in Boseong, Jeollanam-do. Well, let's just say they connected him with the murders of 4 people. HOw many 70-year-olds just up and decide to start killing people after inviting them on his boat? Hell, he probably had a hand in some of those 20-, 30-, 40-year-old missing persons ads we see all the time. He was sentenced to death last month, but he probably won't be executed.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2886487
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710020016.html
edit: Jesus Tapdancing Christ, "identified only by the surname 'Oh.'"  The guy was convicted and sentenced to death. I recall one of the papers printing the name of the white guy ACCUSED by his girlfriend of giving her AIDS. Hell, it ended up printing the entire email.
I trimmed the Wikipedia entry in half a few months ago. There was all kind of bizarre anectodal evidence that didn't belong in an encyclopedia entry. You can read that Crime Library link to find more information his crimes. Here's how the Wikipedia entry looked before I cut it up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yoo_Young-chul&oldid=179425438 |
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