Korean Job Discussion Forums

[aquavelvetelvis]

just thought i'd point out a korean website which is racist and deserves your phone call.

the company is cyenglish language institute in seoul (http://www.cyjenglish.com/). they have the following posted on their site:

The reasons Native Speakers are not hired:

1. Most are only short-term visitors and, therefore, lack a sense of responsibility and duty.
2. They have no concept of teaching and, therefore, have absolutely no sense of duty or professionalism.
3. They are untrained in education.
4. They are absolutely not high-quality personnel (most graduate from no-name technical schools and 2-year colleges.
5. It is impossible to check what kinds of people they are or what their characters are (ex. drug user, homosexual, convict, AIDS patient, sex offender).
6. They only just barely teach their classes and do not invest any time in managing students.
7. They have no burning passion for the students.
8. They do not agonize at all over improving the student�s skills.
9. Legitimate native speakers are rare.
10. It is impossible for parents to easily consult with them anytime they want.

i recommend giving them a call to let them know that this is not appropriate. their number is 02-2604-2325.

you can read more about this issue at: http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2006/12/a_thought_exper.html

[Ryst Helmut]

[Adventurer]

Could people on Dave's ESL chip in money for a class action suit against them for defamation and racism?

[ChuckECheese]

[TheUrbanMyth]

Native Speakers are a race?


Anyways this has already been posted.

[khyber]

[Adventurer]

[Homer]

Wow...ok

1. Most are only short-term visitors and, therefore, lack a sense of responsibility and duty.

A sad by product of the teaching market here and sometimes this is dead on true.

2. They have no concept of teaching and, therefore, have absolutely no sense of duty or professionalism.

A stupid thing to say...but then again many teachers here have no concept of what teaching is. Then again that is what some schools ask for...a catch-22 it seems.


3. They are untrained in education.

Harsh but often true....

4. They are absolutely not high-quality personnel (most graduate from no-name technical schools and 2-year colleges.

A stupid thing to say and an idiotic generalization.

5. It is impossible to check what kinds of people they are or what their characters are (ex. drug user, homosexual, convict, AIDS patient, sex offender).

Wow...no words here...except perhaps...stupid assertion?

6. They only just barely teach their classes and do not invest any time in managing students.

Again.....it is often the case..but...some schools encourage this by hiring non-qualified teachers or by putting education far down the list of priorities.

7. They have no burning passion for the students.

Well....read above and it is sometimes true as some westerners here are cash cowboys out to pay off loans and party leaving their students far behind in their considerations. But, the statement is a generalization that is offensive.

8. They do not agonize at all over improving the student�s skills.

Dumb.

9. Legitimate native speakers are rare.

This is the last wheel falling off the wagon here...

10. It is impossible for parents to easily consult with them anytime they want.

Fact of life due to the language barrier....there are solutions to this (provide a interpreter (a K-teacher) and organize teacher-parent days).

[Neo]

So far as I know, racism isn't illegal in Korea

[Adventurer]

[Homer]

One year is indeed a very, very short time...

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Adventurer]

Do you think we would have enough people to start something like
The Advocates for Foreigners in Korea. The AFP. Would there be plenty of takers in Korea? I keep hearing too many stories of people getting railroaded here. One of my co-workers was drunk and got in a cab.
The cab driver spoke good English when he picked him up. He told him to go to Ilsan, and he went to some other remote place and wanted him to pay 70,000 won, and he called the police and his English speaking ability disappeared somehow. Again, most Koreans are pretty cool, but there is way too much bigotry out there. It needs to be dealt with including call that school up. I probably will do it next week.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Demophobe]

Just thought I would point out that there are many hagwons in Korea who only hire native English speakers.

Racists.