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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject: Casino Royale: Yawn... Reply with quote

Bond is my hero. Bond is every man's hero, even if they don't know it.

But, something about this movie just bored me. Too much down-time between action sequences which weren't anything special? Not enough sexual innuendo? Mediocre Bond girls? Too many villains, and not one you could sink your teeth into?

Some scenes were done very well, and some just fell flat. I suppose one could say this about any Bond film. Remember "License to Kill"? You probably don't; it was entirely dull. Almost like watching "Never Say Never" and having that feeling like "Am I betraying everything I believe in by watching this?" Like a Christian praying in a mosque, or a Jew accepting communion.

The villain's chick was so nasty I thought she was a transvestite the first time she made an appearance. I thought "Whoah! Now that's different for a Bond film." Alas, the only innovation to the series would be the harrowing "Bond getting his genitalia smacked proper with a lead weight" scene. Ouch. At least now we know why he never bothers wearing protection...
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mytime



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i thought it was incredibly boring but it wasnt bad in that it was gritty and featured a Bond that could actually pass as a believable spy
Let's be honest, Brosnan wouldnt survive one day in the real world of espionage (in the way it's portrayed in the Bond movies)

It's also a good foundation for the new Bond franchise...looks to be the norm these days...just look at the new Batman last year
They seem to make the first installment of a new franchise more like a first episode than a standalone movie
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casino Royale was awesome! It was actually a proper movie this time, without relying on stupid invisable cars and useless gadgets. Bond actually looked like he could have served in special forces beforehand. Some of the scenes were amazingly well done and everything looked like it could actually happen. Did make me want to play poker afterwards though.
Although as my friend said. If there's wheelchairs and fingersucking, it aint Bond! Besides, who has a defibrilator in their glove compartment!???
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matthews_world



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite line:

*on the train to the Casino*

Vesper: "You're probably a man who wears Rolexes."
Bond: "Actually, I prefer Omegas."

How's that for blatant advertisement.


Nice to see Ford motor company in the opening.


*possible spoiler below*




















Even the torture scene with Le Chiffre didn't even get my attention. There must have been some stuff cut out of the movie after Bond tenders his resignation. The whole romance there just kinda dies until the house scene.


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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice to see Ford motor company in the opening.


Yes!! Seriously that was the biggest shocker of the movie. 9 of 10 people were like "Wuhhh!? Oh for f*x sake! Where's the bloody Aston Martin! Sacrilege! Rape! Ass-plunder!" Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was better than any Bond movie I remember seeing that didn't have Connery in it. But then I fell asleep through just about all of the ones inbetween. Bond movies have just been far too repetitive for far too long. This one mixed it up nicely, despite having the thinnest of plots. I didn't mind the "downtime", as most of it remained dramatic and it made the action sequences more impactful when they did occur. I think that's why I get bored with most of the Bond films these days: run, chase, gadet escape, lots of bullets killing nobody, drink a martini, run, chase, gadet escape... getting drowsy...
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
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Nice to see Ford motor company in the opening.


Yes!! Seriously that was the biggest shocker of the movie. 9 of 10 people were like "Wuhhh!? Oh for f*x sake! Where's the bloody Aston Martin! Sacrilege! Rape! Ass-plunder!" Laughing


That's a bit odd. Did the crowd believe that James Bond was born in a BMW? That he's been introducing himself as Bond, James Bond since he was in diapers? Everything has to start somewhere.
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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a bit odd. Did the crowd believe that James Bond was born in a BMW? That he's been introducing himself as Bond, James Bond since he was in diapers? Everything has to start somewhere.


Aston Martin. Walther PPK. Vodka Martini. Leggy females.

Some formulas are perfect from inception.
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MissSeoul



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Casino Royale: Yawn... Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:


Mediocre Bond girls?


The worst bond girls I ever seen in James Bond movies.
Big red color lipstic made them look cheap.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously you've never really read the books, or appreciated a 007 movie as anything more worthwhile than a GQ magazine.
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matthews_world



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the fact the Craig's Bond didn't need any fancy tech gadgets to help him out in this movie. His part was pretty much rogue in this one.

I loved the fact that this Bond was in fact a very fast healer. It was almost super-human in quality.

The opening was good with the smoking barrel as part of the live action. The credit sequence was decent as well.

This movie is projected to surpass Die Another Day in total international box office and become the top grossing Bond film ever. The former raked in 400 million world-wide.

Bond 22 is scheduled for 2008 and may be a sequel to Casino Royale.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_bond
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More proof that Wikipedia is dope:

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gypsyfish



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Casino Royale: Yawn... Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
mack the knife wrote:


Mediocre Bond girls?


The worst bond girls I ever seen in James Bond movies.
Big red color lipstic made them look cheap.


Hardly mediocre.

Real women, for a change.

And clearly you don't remember Tanya Roberts, Denise Richards, or Lynn-Holly Johnson when they were Bond girls.

This movie was the best Bond in a long time and he stacks up against Sean Connery. Daniel Craig was tough and credible. No silly stereotype Southern sheriffs in Thailand or giants with steel dentures. I'd've preferred them playing baccarat to Texas Hold'em, but that's not a deal breaker.
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mack the knife



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And clearly you don't remember Tanya Roberts, Denise Richards, or Lynn-Holly Johnson when they were Bond girls


No, they sucked too.

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Obviously you've never really read the books, or appreciated a 007 movie as anything more worthwhile than a GQ magazine


Bond is not GQ. Bond is Playboy. Get it right.




Final answer: It was boring.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
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And clearly you don't remember Tanya Roberts, Denise Richards, or Lynn-Holly Johnson when they were Bond girls


No, they sucked too.

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Obviously you've never really read the books, or appreciated a 007 movie as anything more worthwhile than a GQ magazine


Bond is not GQ. Bond is Playboy. Get it right.




Final answer: It was boring.


My point is it's more about T&A and gadgets and soundtrack, which is what made it a great film. Pierce Brosnan Bond was more like GQ than Playboy.
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