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Tobacco Dreams

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: Smoking is good for you! |
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Believe it or not, it's true:
SMOKING IS GOOD FOR YOU!
I smoke at least two packs a day, and sometimes (when I'm feeling heroic) as many as four.
Apart from the purely subjective improvement in my overall sense of physical and mental well-being, here are some of the evidences in support of smoking as a health-boosting tonic:
http://www.forces.org/evidence/index.htm documents scientific studies which show that smokers are significantly less likely to suffer from Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and other neurological orders. And that's just the beginning . . .
"Smoking Helps Protect Against Lung Cancer":
http://www.vialls.com/transpositions/smoking.html
Besides which, smoking is GOOD FOR THE SOUL!
_Cigarettes Are Sublime_, by Richard Klein, one of the most informative and provocative books I've ever read, has played a decisive influence in my personal decision to keep on puffing. Link: http://tinyurl.com/ygk3sx
THREE CHEERS FOR LADY NICOTINE! |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Sticking your head in an industrial-sized dough mixer also prevents alzheimers. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Terribly sorry to hear you're very likely to get lung cancer, believe that kind of intake is actually good for you and are prematurely aging, despite what ever benefits you believe tobacco to have.
Mind you, I fully support your right to smoke and do not believe in restrictions on smoking. I absolutely freakin hate the p-c anti-tobacco brigade.
In Britain at least, tobacco sales constitute 7.5 BILLION (GBP) in taxes and smoking related diseases cost the national health service 1.5 BILLION - a profit of 6 BILLION. These folks advocate impoverishing the state (or at least depriving it significantly) just so they can eat a meal in a restaurant smoke-free. Absolute vermin.
p.s. I'm a social smoker. Average intake probably 20 per week. |
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JeJuJitsu

Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Location: McDonald's
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Terribly sorry to hear you're very likely to get lung cancer, believe that kind of intake is actually good for you and are prematurely aging, despite what ever benefits you believe tobacco to have.
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Mind you, I fully support your right to smoke and do not believe in restrictions on smoking. I absolutely freakin hate the p-c anti-tobacco brigade.
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These folks advocate impoverishing the state (or at least depriving it significantly) just so they can eat a meal in a restaurant smoke-free. Absolute vermin.
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p.s. I'm a social smoker. Average intake probably 20 per week. |
So tell again, which side are you actually on? |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Link #1: For every article that is included, one could find a hundred that contradict their message. I'm not going to bother wasting my time but I'm certain it could be done by someone with the wherewithal
Link #2: Not a single cite.
I'm not a HUGE fan of the "ban smoking everywhere" group. I like having dinner in the nonsmoking section but as far as I'm concerned, leave it at that.
I also not a huge fan of bad or misrepresented science. They expose some studies as being bunk and I can respect that, but they also present 4 or 5 articles that contradict the "establishment" without telling the reader that the "establishment" came about because of hundreds of thousands of scientific enquiries. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| JeJuJitsu wrote: |
| SPINOZA wrote: |
Terribly sorry to hear you're very likely to get lung cancer, believe that kind of intake is actually good for you and are prematurely aging, despite what ever benefits you believe tobacco to have.
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Mind you, I fully support your right to smoke and do not believe in restrictions on smoking. I absolutely freakin hate the p-c anti-tobacco brigade.
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These folks advocate impoverishing the state (or at least depriving it significantly) just so they can eat a meal in a restaurant smoke-free. Absolute vermin.
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p.s. I'm a social smoker. Average intake probably 20 per week. |
So tell again, which side are you actually on? |
It's a perfectly coherent position.
I enjoy a smoke with a drink (usually just weekends).
I do not support any form of tobacco prohibition because - even though sigs are the biggest killer by far - the economic good their legal distribution provides totally crushes the health problems tobacco causes. T
That said, it's extremely unhealthy - there's no question about that.
But if everyone quit smoking tomorrow, if smoking became THAT socially unacceptable (we're nearly there in the west), it'd be a complete disaster because (at least in my country's case) that's 6 BILLION smackers per year down the drain that's gotta be made up for some other way - income tax rises perhaps? And how many anti-tobacco buffoons also object to high taxation I wonder? Friggin morons, they make me wanna puke. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| JeJuJitsu wrote: |
| SPINOZA wrote: |
Terribly sorry to hear you're very likely to get lung cancer, believe that kind of intake is actually good for you and are prematurely aging, despite what ever benefits you believe tobacco to have.
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Mind you, I fully support your right to smoke and do not believe in restrictions on smoking. I absolutely freakin hate the p-c anti-tobacco brigade.
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These folks advocate impoverishing the state (or at least depriving it significantly) just so they can eat a meal in a restaurant smoke-free. Absolute vermin.
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p.s. I'm a social smoker. Average intake probably 20 per week. |
So tell again, which side are you actually on? |
how do any of those contradict each other? there are opinions out there that differ from either of two extremes. |
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JeJuJitsu

Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Location: McDonald's
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| JeJuJitsu wrote: |
| SPINOZA wrote: |
Terribly sorry to hear you're very likely to get lung cancer, believe that kind of intake is actually good for you and are prematurely aging, despite what ever benefits you believe tobacco to have.
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Mind you, I fully support your right to smoke and do not believe in restrictions on smoking. I absolutely freakin hate the p-c anti-tobacco brigade.
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These folks advocate impoverishing the state (or at least depriving it significantly) just so they can eat a meal in a restaurant smoke-free. Absolute vermin.
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p.s. I'm a social smoker. Average intake probably 20 per week. |
So tell again, which side are you actually on? |
It's a perfectly coherent position.
I enjoy a smoke with a drink (usually just weekends).
I do not support any form of tobacco prohibition because - even though sigs are the biggest killer by far - the economic good their legal distribution provides totally crushes the health problems tobacco causes. T
That said, it's extremely unhealthy - there's no question about that.
But if everyone quit smoking tomorrow, if smoking became THAT socially unacceptable (we're nearly there in the west), it'd be a complete disaster because (at least in my country's case) that's 6 BILLION smackers per year down the drain that's gotta be made up for some other way - income tax rises perhaps? And how many anti-tobacco buffoons also object to high taxation I wonder? Friggin morons, they make me wanna puke. |
I imagine you actually switching chairs from one side of the table to the other, using different voices for each side, when you argue both sides like that. |
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