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Crap job-Hankuk Academy of Foreign Studies (high school)
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simpleminds



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Crap job-Hankuk Academy of Foreign Studies (high school) Reply with quote

Despite the 2.5/mth, 20hr/wk, free internet in the dorm and fantastic students, my friend recommends you do not take this job.

Reasons:

"1) Inconvenient location. One has to take a taxi to catch a bus...On return, the taxi never returns you to your dorm, so you have to walk in pitch dark 15-20 minutes on a busy narrow road. Uphill.

2)One is not allowed to cook, and not allowed to order food from restaurants. Therefore, you're stuck with the crappy food in the cafeteria.

3) They don't have a set curriculum, and it keeps changing. Foreign LAnguage teachers are hired to teach conversation, and end up teaching something else. eg:I was originally hired to teach Eng. Conversation, but I ended up teaching TOEFL. One teacher was hired to be a councellor, and ended up teaching Eng. Literature. One for conversation, ended up with Political Science/American History....

4) The administration sucks....everything is last minute, and they keep changing class schedules every other day. Yes, I know this happens in public schools, it's nothing new, but it's annoying.

5) Living in a dorm. Cleaners or anyone will enter your room andyou live on the same floor as the male students. Makes it extremely loud, up until 2:00am. My laundry was STOLEN from my room. I had a BIG SIGN saying "PLease do not enter this room under any circumstances" written in Korean, but they still got in and took my laundry. After making a big scene, I found a couple of pieces in the GARBAGE BIN outside, on the street! The school NEVER conpensated me for it...

6) They make false promises. eg; A kitchen for the teachers. There's only a bunch of fridges to share with the students. A shuttle bus, because we live in the boonies, but no shuttle bus. Pay for the extra work in the summer, but they did NOT pay foreign teachers, only the Koreans.

The work for the summer vacation was not a summer camp. We were to teach ET classes (Extra curricular activities), They made me come back early from my vacation, and made me come to school, but they had NO
teaching scheduled for me! But another whose name is Ronald was here and taught, but did not get paid for the extra work. However, the school paid the Korean teachers.

We already had two teachers from the Eng. Dept. quit during the first
semester, and now ALL English teachers are quitting. Including me.

And the list goes on and on..."

As for the dorm, announcements sometimes start at 6.45 am. I stayed overnight on a Sat night. From 6.45am, we had to listen to an average of 4 announcements per hour for students to come to a meeting at 8am that morning. Did I mention it was a Sunday?

PM me if you want more details.

Consider yourselves warned.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, but can you have chicks in yer dorm overnight?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they really know how to screw up what has the potential to be a dream job. Just think of the teachers they could attract if they'd shell out for officetels along a bus route. Seriously - living with the high school students? Do you know of any Korean teachers who do that if they're not taking turns on gee-sook-sa duty? Why don't they just say 'no housing' and offer a housing allowance. Oh, probably because that's the W300,000 they're using to make the job look like it pays about .3 better than most HS jobs.
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simpleminds



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Precisely. I did ask my friend about the possiblilty of housing outside campus. "Oh, no, that's not possible." Those words have got to be their admin's mantra. "Oh, it's a misunderstanding." Yeah. Sure. That's got to be their Plan B mantra.

It's too bad; it could have been a fantastic job.
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simpleminds



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE on my friend:

'Everytime the students are gone home which is once a
month, and during holidays, the school CUTS OFF the
heater, shuts the doors, as we speak, X-MAS cold as it
is, plus NO HEATER on the top of the hill, plus NO HOT
WATER. They even cut the internet connection.

Anyone who thinks of applying is a big FOOL!!'

Pleasant, huh? Guess the whitey isn't valuable enough for the powers that be to put the heating on when the students aren't around.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simpleminds wrote:
UPDATE on my friend:

'Everytime the students are gone home which is once a
month, and during holidays, the school CUTS OFF the
heater, shuts the doors, as we speak, X-MAS cold as it
is, plus NO HEATER on the top of the hill, plus NO HOT
WATER. They even cut the internet connection.

Anyone who thinks of applying is a big FOOL!!'

Pleasant, huh? Guess the whitey isn't valuable enough for the powers that be to put the heating on when the students aren't around.


Since your friend is living in a dorm room, I assume that there isn't any utility bills. I would buy the most powerful and electricity sucking space heater and blast it 24 hrs a day. If it gets too warm, just crack the window.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chucky, sometimes I like your thinking.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
cr*p job


They're all Cr*p my dear fellow. just a question of degree
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Quote:
cr*p job


They're all Cr*p my dear fellow. just a question of degree


I agree. They all involve kissing some moron's butt to get your pay (which they will screw you over in some small way).
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Sounds like they really know how to screw up what has the potential to be a dream job. Just think of the teachers they could attract if they'd shell out for officetels along a bus route. Seriously - living with the high school students? Do you know of any Korean teachers who do that if they're not taking turns on gee-sook-sa duty? Why don't they just say 'no housing' and offer a housing allowance. Oh, probably because that's the W300,000 they're using to make the job look like it pays about .3 better than most HS jobs.


A female friend taught at a pottery school in Ichon that had dorms. She was placed on the boys floor. Teenage boys running around in their undies all night. Oddly a male Korean teacher was placed on the girls floor. She has no idea why this situation set up that way.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that everything you're saying about this job is unstretched truth. If so, it's a valuable warning for any prospective teacher. It sounds like a terrible job as far as the living conditions are concerned. Sounds more like human rights abuse! I hope that the current teachers stand up and voice their opinions to the powers that be and try to get things changed.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotpants wrote:
I hope that everything you're saying about this job is unstretched truth. If so, it's a valuable warning for any prospective teacher. It sounds like a terrible job as far as the living conditions are concerned. Sounds more like human rights abuse! I hope that the current teachers stand up and voice their opinions to the powers that be and try to get things changed.



I know exactly what you mean. Many of the schools in my district have dormitories. Many also have teachers' residences. I live in a teachers' residence. It's a bit different from a dorm room. For instance, I have my own bathroom, kitchen, living room, and spare bedroom and don't have kids running around. No Korean teacher would put up with sleeping in a dormatory with the kids and asking a KT to do so would be a ridiculous insult, which is what the above-mentioned job seems to be.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Many of the schools in my district have dormitories. .


Do you mean that some public school teachers sleep in dorms with students??? i thought all public schools had a separate appt. as standard for their teachers...
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simpleminds



Joined: 04 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too damn right it's like human rights abuse. That's why all the teachers are leaving. Sure, they voiced their complaints, but admin employed their mantra mentioned above, like the bully saying, "It's only a joke," after insulting the victim with a slur. Admin is on a serious power trip, and I thought admin at my old job was bad.

I don't think my friend is stretching the truth;he's got better things to do than slander a school, he's not even on Dave's, but they're advertising now. I would have applied, for the students alone.

I had a job interview last week, and enquired after the living arrangements, because they don't suppliment rent if you choose not to live in the dorm. The director was good enough to show me; it was like the residence Ya-bum-suk mentioned with kitchen, etc, but the teachers (mainly Chinese) are living on the same floor as the students. Uh, no thanks. And no, I'll not take the job
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Many of the schools in my district have dormitories. .


Do you mean that some public school teachers sleep in dorms with students??? i thought all public schools had a separate appt. as standard for their teachers...


Yes, all public school teachers' residences are seperate aparta or houses. Public school teachers would only sleep in dorms with the students if they were taking turns doing dorm supervision. Our school has a paid dorm monitor so that's not necessary.
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