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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: The Eagles Sue a Korean Insurance Company Reply with quote

I was reading the Korean Herald and I saw in one of the last pages of the newspaper that the Eagles were suing a Korean insurance company for 537,000 dollars for using part of the song "Desperado" without permission. The Korean company claimed that the Eagles' agent gave them permission. I didn't notice the insurance company saying that they had permission in writing. A company has to get permission in writing, and why would the Eagles let a company use their song for free? Essentially, the company was lying and its advertising firm doesn't respect copyright laws.
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Peeping Tom



Joined: 15 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: The Eagles Sue a Korean Insurance Company Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
I was reading the Korean Herald and I saw in one of the last pages of the newspaper that the Eagles were suing a Korean insurance company for 537,000 dollars for using part of the song "Desperado" without permission. The Korean company claimed that the Eagles' agent gave them permission. I didn't notice the insurance company saying that they had permission in writing. A company has to get permission in writing, and why would the Eagles let a company use their song for free? Essentially, the company was lying and its advertising firm doesn't respect copyright laws.


I often wonder how many of the commercials using foreign songs have bothered to get permission. If one has the knowhow, one could probably make a business alerting foreign companies of copyright infringement in Korea and do quite well...although I doubt foreign companies would ever win a battle in Korean courts (i.e. Starbucks).
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: The Eagles Sue a Korean Insurance Company Reply with quote

Peeping Tom wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
I was reading the Korean Herald and I saw in one of the last pages of the newspaper that the Eagles were suing a Korean insurance company for 537,000 dollars for using part of the song "Desperado" without permission. The Korean company claimed that the Eagles' agent gave them permission. I didn't notice the insurance company saying that they had permission in writing. A company has to get permission in writing, and why would the Eagles let a company use their song for free? Essentially, the company was lying and its advertising firm doesn't respect copyright laws.


I often wonder how many of the commercials using foreign songs have bothered to get permission. If one has the knowhow, one could probably make a business alerting foreign companies of copyright infringement in Korea and do quite well...although I doubt foreign companies would ever win a battle in Korean courts (i.e. Starbucks).


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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: The Eagles Sue a Korean Insurance Company Reply with quote

Peeping Tom wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
I was reading the Korean Herald and I saw in one of the last pages of the newspaper that the Eagles were suing a Korean insurance company for 537,000 dollars for using part of the song "Desperado" without permission. The Korean company claimed that the Eagles' agent gave them permission. I didn't notice the insurance company saying that they had permission in writing. A company has to get permission in writing, and why would the Eagles let a company use their song for free? Essentially, the company was lying and its advertising firm doesn't respect copyright laws.


I often wonder how many of the commercials using foreign songs have bothered to get permission. If one has the knowhow, one could probably make a business alerting foreign companies of copyright infringement in Korea and do quite well...although I doubt foreign companies would ever win a battle in Korean courts (i.e. Starbucks).


Then again, they might be pretty busy in US courts following up youtube, myspace, and various torrent sites...
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Korean advertising companies were actually paying when they should then The Beatles people must be getting very rich from Korea alone. The Beatles music is all over Korean TV.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
If Korean advertising companies were actually paying when they should then The Beatles people must be getting very rich from Korea alone. The Beatles music is all over Korean TV.

The Beatles don't own most of their music anymore. Unless McCartney bought everything back from Jackson.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
eamo wrote:
If Korean advertising companies were actually paying when they should then The Beatles people must be getting very rich from Korea alone. The Beatles music is all over Korean TV.

The Beatles don't own most of their music anymore. Unless McCartney bought everything back from Jackson.


He'll own it again soon. I read somewhere that some new British copyright laws will make it so.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
eamo wrote:
If Korean advertising companies were actually paying when they should then The Beatles people must be getting very rich from Korea alone. The Beatles music is all over Korean TV.

The Beatles don't own most of their music anymore. Unless McCartney bought everything back from Jackson.


Michael Jackson was famous for owning the rights. I think he slowly sold off shares in the catalog as he needed money but retains (or until recently) retained a 51% control or something. He kind of was able to borrow a lot of money using the catalog as collateral.

When you say catalog, what you're talking about, I believe, is the words and the musical notes. The Beatles retain their performance rights. So you can't really have John Lennon singing revolution in a Nike ad. However, one can sell Nike the rights to cover the song for their commercial.

http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.htm
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J.B. Clamence



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bet that the vast majority of foreign music used in Korean advertising (even the ads for big companies like Samsung) is stolen illegally. I just don't see how they would bother to get permission for all of it, especially that one ad where the guy keeps changing channels on his MP3 player and encounters a different person on the street dancing to each track. I mean, there's no way they went and got permission for all of those songs.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
I would bet that the vast majority of foreign music used in Korean advertising (even the ads for big companies like Samsung) is stolen illegally.

Why stop at foreign music. I bet the same is true of Korean music. I remember back during one of the presidential elections (I think it was Kim Dae-jung's), Korean singer Lee Jung-hyun came out and announced that she does not give ANYONE permission to use her song 바꿔 in ANY election campains. She said she would prosecute anyone who did.
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