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[Big_Bird]

Here's an article on the topic written by a Palestinian: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=11645

[freethought]

I think it's not a matter of being 'over-emphasized', but rather incorrectly emphasized. By that I mean look at all the other examples brought up in this thread: Bosnians, North, central and South American Aboriginal populations, Africans during the slave trade, the 12+ million who died in the Belgian Congo under the work of King Leo II.... you can add to that the 25+ million russians who died in WW2, the who knows how many Chinese who died in any number of Mao's 'great' ideas, the list of massive atrocities is astonishing.

SO when I say incorrectly emphasized, I think the it is improperly weighted with regards to these other examples, and, moreover, the emphasis should be put on the state sanctioned and organized policy of the concentration and extermination camps, and that there are people who need to be 'changed' eg: Homos.

Rather than saying 'poor jews' we should be learning about what mechanisms and policies led to these events, because that is a far great lesson to learn. I guess it boils down to a matter of when we say 'never again,' we mean for ALL people around this world, and doing things to stop it from happening.

[PimpofKorea]

Hey I gotta joke for ya *disclaimer...do not take this the wrong way*

What's the difference between a pizza and a jew?????

A pizza doesn't scream when you put it in the oven....

[Fresh Prince]

How can you even debate this?

[Adventurer]

I think when it comes to the Jews and Arabs, many people downplay the holocaust and many downplay the holocaust. It is a way to spite one another. It traces to prejudicial views from both camps. Denigrating the holocaust, questioning the fact that it happened is racist. Stating that so many of the Jews died from illness does not absolve the nazis of guilt.
Why did they get those illnesses? They got the illnesses because they were starving, malnourished, and working at the same time. The holocaust, however, including 2 million Catholic Poles who are often not mentioned. The holocaust saw the death of 11 million people of the 11 million there were about 5 million gentiles. The underplaying of the gentile victims by some who use the holocaust for political gain are doing a disservice to all victims of such tragedies. The suffering of people is often used for political gain of various powerful figures such as Saddam pretending he cared about the Palestinians. It is all about power and jockeying for power.

[Mister]

Spliff's comments on page one have nothing to do with Anti-Semiticism.

There has been research and discussion about the numbers and means of casualties of the Holocaust by historians and researchers for years.

Jews are not a "race" but a religion that comprises many races and religious groups throughout the world.

Anti-Zionism is not related to Anti-Semitism, although some to try falsely link the two for their own political and ideological purposes.

[Satori]

[nelzer13]

has anyone read Night by Elie Wiesel?? ..that might help answer your questions

[Adventurer]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[SPINOZA]

It's spurious to say the Jews aren't a race. The term race lacks clarity and if you wanna argue the Jews aren't a race in the same way that folks argue that Koreans aren't a race, then I guess that's fair enough and it won't benefit the discussion in the least to pursue that. The difference between a race and an ethnicity is not well-defined in my opinion since both presuppose genetic and physical heritage. The latter certainly exists and to be honest I'm not sure why people even bother debating the difference**, and in any case there is a strong racial (or ethnic, or hereditary) element to the Jewish religion, claiming a genetic heritage to the Jews of the Diaspora and the ancient Israelites. This is the basis for the State of Israel being where it is....because that's where they originally came from!

Anyway, where are all the links in support of the view that the Holocaust was exaggerated, given that many people appear to be able to throw such assertions around dogmatically?

** until the definition "any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race" is erased from the dictionary, I shall continue to use the term 'race' in this traditional fashion.

[Tobacco Dreams]