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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:00 pm Post subject: Telephone teaching |
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I did telephone teaching for a short time when I was in Seoul, and learned a lot about Korean culture from some of the students. A lot of the females used it to meet up with and practice live with their teachers. Interesting experience.
I'm not in Seoul now, but would like to continue doing it. Their are plenty of companies doing telephone teaching, but I can't find any outside of Seoul. Anyone know of any? |
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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:33 am Post subject: interesting |
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that's the most interesting thing I've heard all weekend. How much were they paying you to teach over the phone? *bleep* that sounds bizarre. Teaching on the phone. I'd love to give that a bash if it pays about the same as *ahem* privts *ahem*. Please let me know. I'm in Wonju by the way. Know clue if that's happening here.  |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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*bump*
The Fonz wanted to know if this was worth doing, and so do I. It sounds much less risky than teaching privates, and if you can do it from home, much easier. How's the pay? What companies are decent? Which ones are scamjobs?
I see ads in the Korea Times and Herald all the time for this.
Someone's gotta know something about this. |
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BTM

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Back in the saddle.
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I hate talking on the phone, which is a downside, but you can drink beer while 'teaching,' which would be a pretty big upside!
I'd be interested to hear more, too. |
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Lost Seoul

Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Phone teaching |
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As tempting as phone teaching may be to some I'd like to point out that this kind of teaching holds some of the same kinds of risks as teaching for a hagwon so make sure you do your homework folks. Take the below case for example:
http://www.englishspectrum.com/form2.php3?table=news_blackbook
No.196 : BEWARE OF INTER-EDU PHONE TEACHING COMPANY.
Name: Jonathan
Date: 2003-07-14 14:47:40
View: 16
To whom it may concern.
This is to inform all teachers doing phone teaching and those intending to do so , to please stay away from INTER- EDU INC a new phone teaching company that takes pride in Refusing to pay teachers salary. INTER -EDU is a scam , with thier inxperienced and troublesome 2 men total staff, they would ask you to do anything including persuading students from other institutes to enroll with them and at the end of the month still find it difficult to pay a teachers salary. I worked with Inter -edu right after it's started the phone teaching bussiness a few months ago but the issue always is paying my salary which is not even much. Beware of INTER-EDU and avoid working to enrich the 2 men greedy INTER-EDU Staff. To be more specific do not respond to any mail from
www.Inter-edu.co.kr or 02-3664-7474. |
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RedRob

Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Location: Narnia
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:15 am Post subject: |
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I have been offered this gig a few times, once I went as far as sorting out a time table , but it was a nightmare. I was getting paid by the person,. I did the math-stupidly after setting up talk times with monkey boy salary men. The pay turned out to be about 13 000 per hour, so I called tthe head office and ditched the lot.
Oddly, it was my hogwan manager who offered me the work thru a friend of hers.
The main problem was that dealing with these guys with poor english face to face ain't so bad, 'cos you can use body language as well, but talking to a complete stranger on the phone was tough.
The other problem I had was inflexibility on behalf of the business guys I was supposed to coach.
I had about 20 conversations like this:
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HI Its redrob here from kimchimoneybags phone skool. Howsyadoin'?
......I'm pine tank youandyou?
Just Fine thanks, I'm writing up a schedule, you can have any thing from 9am to 1145am or 9pm to 1145pm whats good for you?
........OK thankyou 645am thankyounicetomeetchu
Errm Sorry mate (Repeat myself)
........AhhhhhOk thankyou no 645am? OK 7.00 am thankyouverymuchee
Errrm, Sorry mate (repeat myself)
........AmmmmOk 7.10am? OK?
Anyways you get the picture, at first I thought it was me, but I'm not kidding I did this like 20 times! Then I thought this gig is kinda tough, lets do the math.
Dopey features here assumed that because the job came from my school owner, that it would pay at least my O/Time rate of 20 thou or even a bit more if things went well.
What I think happened was a common Korean problem of trying to keep everyone happy and fking up completely in the process.ie: Telling me- you set the times and choose the students you like, then telling potential students- you set the times you want to learn, our teachers are totally flexible.
I met someone who was doing it last week, she said the pay was about 15000, but it was using webcams, which might be a bit easier, and she didn't seem to mind it at all, so each to their own huh? |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:54 am Post subject: |
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I've done it, but the paye wasn't the greatest. I used to get up at 6 in the morning, and do it for two hours. Didn't mind it, because I got to know the people I was talking to after a while. Built up kind of a relationship I guess. Couple of times I'd sleep in, but by then they all knew me, so I'd ring them all up and catch them at a different time.
Like the original poster I went out with them a lot too. Was kind of bored so I said what the heck. Some of the girls made a habbit of dating different guys who were doing it.
Also had to say I was at the company office. Customers weren't supposed to know it was done from home. |
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Daami
Joined: 27 May 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:15 am Post subject: |
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I also did it for a little while. I was on about 1.85m a month I think... with an apartment just around the corner from where I lived.
I worked from an office and had to be there from 3pm until about 10.30pm. However the telephone calls were to students at a scheduled time every weeknight and I didn't really have all that many calls to make. As I recall I had absolutely no calls to make between 5 and 7.30pm so basically I just sat in the office and read, studied Korean, surfed the 'net (when the boss was out) or did some writing.... got kinda boring really.
It was possibly the easiest job I ever had yet I have to say I enjoy a much more "hands-on" approach. Generally I enjoy the classrooms.... I get a lot more stimulation and satisfaction from "real" people as opposed to voices on the phone....
Hmmm.... that last paragraph could be taken many ways but I'm gonna post it anyhow ..... |
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chi-chi
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:33 am Post subject: |
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mods you may delete
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Walter Mitty

Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Tokyo! ^.^
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:05 am Post subject: |
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chi-chi wrote: |
I'm required to do telephone teaching, for free. This was busted on me after I signed.
Anyone else have to do this? |
Is there anything in your contract about it? Anything even vaugely worded to sound like you're required to do phone teaching? |
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saint_moi

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: That little place where I'm meant to be.
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well waddya know. I'm just about to start this queer telephonic endeavour, so I'll fill ya'll in later. I bought a computer to do the teaching and they pay your internet fee, so I'm just interested in 1st paying off my pc and then doing a little chit chat everyday while im sitting on my naught so that I have free fast internet. i lurve Korean internet. |
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The Bobster

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I'm required to do telephone teaching, for free. This was busted on me after I signed. |
I do phone teaching at my hagwon. I do it from my desk in the teacher's room and it is included in my teaching hours. My coworker has a few more classroom hours than me so he gets a couple of hours OT a week due to it.
I find it less stressful than the classroom. I can sip a cup of coffee while I work, and even squeeze in a smoke break, and the boss doesn't care as long as I get the job done. I look forward to the days when I am scheduled to do it.
One question no one has asked: Is it really teaching? I.e., do people actually improve their English because of it?
In the case of my school, all I can say for sure is that is an excellent marketing device. I've worked at some places that have kids in middle school who have been "learning" there since early elementary school and yet when I run into the urchins on the street with their parents they can't utter more than the standard hellohowareyou? Finethanyouverymuch ... even though at my school, the kids are just parroting phrases I taught them during the week in preparation for their 3 minutes on the phone with me, well, at least they are saying something and mom can hear them in the next room actually speaking English.
The other sort of phone teaching that some are referring here probably carries the same illegality as private teaching, and I would guess the risks might conceivably be greater. If your agent or the teaching company that set up the appointments were to be busted, they would be in a great position to weasel their way out of fines by turning over the lists of teachers they have doing it ... if anyone can think of a flaw in this theory, let me know because I've thought of doing some of it myself. |
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RedRob

Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Location: Narnia
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:34 am Post subject: |
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saint_moi wrote: |
Well waddya know. I'm just about to start this *beep* telephonic endeavour, so I'll fill ya'll in later. I bought a computer to do the teaching and they pay your internet fee, so I'm just interested in 1st paying off my pc and then doing a little chit chat everyday while im sitting on my naught so that I have free fast internet. i lurve Korean internet. |
Soooooo howzit going so far? |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:39 am Post subject: |
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chi-chi wrote: |
I'm required to do telephone teaching, for free. This was busted on me after I signed.
Anyone else have to do this? |
Yes, this also happened to me but the 5 foreign teachers at the school made such a fuss about it not being in the contract that they agreed to pay us. (3 minutes for every successful call). Of corse it was still extra work since it required essentially writing a dialogue for each class. And then, of course, you would have to call some of the homes 4 or 5 times to get the kid at home even though you'd arranged a phone time with the student. The grandmother would have to drag the kid away from Diablo or something so the calls rarely were under 3 minutes and quite often approched 5 or 6. I had a total of 120 students and was teaching 130 hours per month (real time - not per class). It was quite an extra burden on my time but I think it was a good PR move and did seem to make me connect with some of the kids better despite the short time. I think some of the older students (11-13) were a little more serious about the class as a result. |
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