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ESL Teacher: 40 Hour a week job?
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: ESL Teacher: 40 Hour a week job? Reply with quote
More and more I hear the idea being thrown out by Hogwons or Public Schools that they expect ESL teachers to be putting in basically 40 hours a week all told.

Is this a trend? A reality? Should it be so? Should we expect to put in the effort of a normal job here - I thought we were here for vacation lol
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: ESL Teacher: 40 Hour a week job? (EFL) Reply with quote
Voyeur wrote:
More and more I hear the idea being thrown out by Hogwons or Public Schools that they expect ESL teachers to be putting in basically 40 hours a week all told.

Is this a trend? A reality? Should it be so? Should we expect to put in the effort of a normal job here - I thought we were here for vacation lol



Six hours a day is enough, but too many teachers are putting up with more work for the same pay and are driving down the conditions here.

There are public school teachers who will actually go to their school during the winter and summer breaks and just sit there!

I do have a family to support, but I have some pride left and wouldn't earn my money that way. I know I could get another job here in a day or two.

I am here to work, and work I do, but if it ends up like being a job back home, I will go back home.
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AwesomeA



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Yeosu
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, it's nonsense. Same pay, yet with more hours. Only 30 hours of actual teaching though. Which leaves another 10 to prepare or sit on your arse and do nothing.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In terms of dissing public schools, you fail to recongnize one point, which is you deal with a lot less crap (at least in my experience) then in a hagwon.

I work at a public school and love it. Yes, I am here on winter break (parts of it at least because I did teach 10 days this month). I don't have a huge family to feed (just my wife and I), but at the same time, it's not that bad a job.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm a newbie at a hagwon, earning 1.9 for 40 hours a week. I'm doing 30 hours of teaching plus 10 hours of 'prep' (which basically entails writing down which page of the textbook each class is up to in my schedule folder). It's fine by me. In my spare prep time I read and study.

I'd never come back for another year of this though. I'm going to head back to NZ, get certified, and be a 'real' teacher...
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Nina



Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Location: Ulsan
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
40 hours!

Im lucky if i do 25 a week at the moment. This is a vacation for me!
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Samantha



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Hierophant wrote:
I'm a newbie at a hagwon, earning 1.9 for 40 hours a week. I'm doing 30 hours of teaching plus 10 hours of 'prep' (which basically entails writing down which page of the textbook each class is up to in my schedule folder). It's fine by me. In my spare prep time I read and study.

I'd never come back for another year of this though. I'm going to head back to NZ, get certified, and be a 'real' teacher...


Damn! 1.9 for 40....good lord I get 2.2 for 30-35. I flat out refuse to do 40 hours a week. If I wanted a 40 hr a week job I would stayed at home. My schedule is 2-7 but I have 25 min classes (so 13 classes) with students ages 7-16. I have a maximum of 8 kids per class. I don't know if this is one of the better of the jobs but it sure does sound sweet to me.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Samantha wrote:
The Hierophant wrote:
I'm a newbie at a hagwon, earning 1.9 for 40 hours a week. I'm doing 30 hours of teaching plus 10 hours of 'prep' (which basically entails writing down which page of the textbook each class is up to in my schedule folder). It's fine by me. In my spare prep time I read and study.

I'd never come back for another year of this though. I'm going to head back to NZ, get certified, and be a 'real' teacher...


Damn! 1.9 for 40....good lord I get 2.2 for 30-35. I flat out refuse to do 40 hours a week. If I wanted a 40 hr a week job I would stayed at home. My schedule is 2-7 but I have 25 min classes (so 13 classes) with students ages 7-16. I have a maximum of 8 kids per class. I don't know if this is one of the better of the jobs but it sure does sound sweet to me.

Yeah, sounds like you have a nice job. Congrats! Smile

I've gone through the phase of "Oh my God I'm getting ripped off!" but I'm over that now. I signed the contract, I'm going to stick with it , even though my boss has behaved illegally and broken the contract numerous times (if anything this has made me appreciate the regulations of my home country all the more). I've only got three months to go anyway.

This year in Korea has been a great experience. I'm not earning a huge amount, and I'm working reasonably hard, but it has been a great experience and has definitely changed my outlook. I'm going to leave Korea with much more confidence and more of an idea of where to take my life, plus enough cash saved to pay for my Dip Ed. So despite the less than optimum conditions as far as Korean ESL jobs go, I don't have any real complaints.

But, if my boss tries to screw me come severance time, I'm going to destroy him, and take great pleasure in doing so Smile
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It isn't only how many TEACHING hours you have, how many TOTAL hours ALL IN do you work? Grading, training, meetings, report cards, etc...

Why do I keep hearing so much about the 40 hour week? What happened? I didnt come here to work as hard as a job back hom (mind you most GOOD jobs at home reuire you to stay late a lot so it isn't 40 and take no work home).

My old Hogwon owner, 2 years back even, said that Hogwon owners and school administrators *consciously* felt that ESL teachers were getting too much ffor too little. They felt cheesed that they were coming here for vacation, not work and that there truly is a push to make sure teachers put in 40 hour weeks just like everyone else - esp. since in korea even if you have a 40 hour job officially, you always work longer.

You think he is right? Do you think that a lot of officials really felt that ESL teachers clocking in a TOTAL of 28 hours to 32 hours a week TOTAL had life too easy - that 40 should be the standard (be it through extra teaching, prep, grading, whatever...).

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