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F4/E2 visa advice needed!! help..

 
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kchax



Joined: 01 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: F4/E2 visa advice needed!! help.. Reply with quote

my recruiter is advising me to go to korea on a tourist visa to apply for my F4 visa,
however, i told him that i haven't renounced my korean citizenship yet, neither my parents,
but he tells me that he contacted the immigration office in korea and they say that I could apply for F4 there without having my parents renounce their citizenship,
he wants me to be in korea on the feb. 20th,
because the visa processing takes sometime, and I haven't gotten my diploma yet, (I just graduated Dec.),
so the worst case is getting rejected for F4 visa, and apply for E2,
but doesn't that mean I would have to get out of the country, Japan, to apply for E2?
I'm asking my recruiter that if that happens, the hakwon would have to pay for the visa trip to Japan...


any advice would be appreciated.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: F4/E2 visa advice needed!! help.. Reply with quote

kchax wrote:
my recruiter is advising me to go to korea on a tourist visa to apply for my F4 visa,
however, i told him that i haven't renounced my korean citizenship yet, neither my parents,
but he tells me that he contacted the immigration office in korea and they say that I could apply for F4 there without having my parents renounce their citizenship,
he wants me to be in korea on the feb. 20th,
because the visa processing takes sometime, and I haven't gotten my diploma yet, (I just graduated Dec.),
so the worst case is getting rejected for F4 visa, and apply for E2,
but doesn't that mean I would have to get out of the country, Japan, to apply for E2?
I'm asking my recruiter that if that happens, the hakwon would have to pay for the visa trip to Japan...


any advice would be appreciated.


Are you male or female. If you are male and have (or your parents have) retained your/their Korean citizenship you are subject to the draft.

PS> Your recruiter is lying to you. Get your paperwork done first or get burned.
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starlight128



Joined: 06 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it's harder for you to get the F4 bc you're not an American citizen? I'm going to the Korean Consulate tomorrow to apply for my F-4 visa and it's supposed to be processed the next day. Good luck with everything! I'm planning to leave in a few weeks too. Smile
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where were you born?

If you were born in Korea nad have not renounced your citizenship... then you're still Korean and do not need a visa.
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Samantha



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: F4/E2 visa advice needed!! help.. Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
kchax wrote:
my recruiter is advising me to go to korea on a tourist visa to apply for my F4 visa,
however, i told him that i haven't renounced my korean citizenship yet, neither my parents,
but he tells me that he contacted the immigration office in korea and they say that I could apply for F4 there without having my parents renounce their citizenship,
he wants me to be in korea on the feb. 20th,
because the visa processing takes sometime, and I haven't gotten my diploma yet, (I just graduated Dec.),
so the worst case is getting rejected for F4 visa, and apply for E2,
but doesn't that mean I would have to get out of the country, Japan, to apply for E2?
I'm asking my recruiter that if that happens, the hakwon would have to pay for the visa trip to Japan...


any advice would be appreciated.


Are you male or female. If you are male and have (or your parents have) retained your/their Korean citizenship you are subject to the draft.

PS> Your recruiter is lying to you. Get your paperwork done first or get burned.


Question: if the OP is male and no one has renounced their Korean citizenship, wouldn't that mean if he enters Korea to teach wheter it be on the E2 or F4 visa that he'd have to enlist in the military for the mandatory 2 year service (I think it's 2 years) that all able bodied non-religous order males have to do? 1) if the OP is male and 2) my theory is correct, OP would you really want to come here and ve required to join military for a country that it seems you have minimal ties to outside of national origin? Just curious Very Happy
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christinajou



Joined: 03 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: F4-Non Korean Citizen Reply with quote

You can only get and F-4 if you are NOT KOREAN by citizenship. If you are still Korean, you don't need a visa to come to Korea. Also, if you are male, I would not come to Korea unless you are willing to serve in the army as Korean law requires of all able bodied males of suitable age. I have met a few guys who were Korean citizens living teaching in Korea, but could not leave the country(Korea) due to this problem. Even if you had gotten your American/Canadian/whatever citizenship, the law may still require you to serve in the army if you had been born in Korea and are on your parents' "ho-juk. "

Don't trust the recruiter. If you are Korean and possess a Korean Passport, you cannot get an F-4.
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kchax



Joined: 01 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: F4-Non Korean Citizen Reply with quote

christinajou wrote:
You can only get and F-4 if you are NOT KOREAN by citizenship. If you are still Korean, you don't need a visa to come to Korea. Also, if you are male, I would not come to Korea unless you are willing to serve in the army as Korean law requires of all able bodied males of suitable age. I have met a few guys who were Korean citizens living teaching in Korea, but could not leave the country(Korea) due to this problem. Even if you had gotten your American/Canadian/whatever citizenship, the law may still require you to serve in the army if you had been born in Korea and are on your parents' "ho-juk. "

Don't trust the recruiter. If you are Korean and possess a Korean Passport, you cannot get an F-4.



I was a Korean citizen, but not by birth. My father is Korean and we immigrated to Korea earlier and I had a Korean passport, but I am now a US citizen. I am a female. My parents and I haven't renounced our Korean citizenship and we're all US citizens. ..

thanks for the infos.. but I'm still very confused..
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kchax



Joined: 01 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Where were you born?

If you were born in Korea nad have not renounced your citizenship... then you're still Korean and do not need a visa.



I was born in the Philippines, but immigrated to Korea at age 7(my father is Korean), and became a Korean citizen. I am now a US citizen, but haven't renounced my Korean citizenship...neither my parents.

would I qualify for F4? or do I even need F4 to work? am I still a Korean citizen? what are my rights?.. I'm confused..........

I have talked to my embassy over here and they were telling me different things...so is my recruiter who supposely asked the immigration office in Korea.... =(
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kchax wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Where were you born?

If you were born in Korea nad have not renounced your citizenship... then you're still Korean and do not need a visa.



I was born in the Philippines, but immigrated to Korea at age 7(my father is Korean), and became a Korean citizen. I am now a US citizen, but haven't renounced my Korean citizenship...neither my parents.

would I qualify for F4? or do I even need F4 to work? am I still a Korean citizen? what are my rights?.. I'm confused..........

I have talked to my embassy over here and they were telling me different things...so is my recruiter who supposely asked the immigration office in Korea.... =(


Go to the Korean embassy/consulate and apply for your KOREAN passport.

If you are a Korean citizen you will get one and you will NOT need a visa of any kind.

Be aware that if you are a male you will have to serve 2 years in the army before they let you leave Korea.
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kchax



Joined: 01 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
kchax wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Where were you born?

If you were born in Korea nad have not renounced your citizenship... then you're still Korean and do not need a visa.



I was born in the Philippines, but immigrated to Korea at age 7(my father is Korean), and became a Korean citizen. I am now a US citizen, but haven't renounced my Korean citizenship...neither my parents.

would I qualify for F4? or do I even need F4 to work? am I still a Korean citizen? what are my rights?.. I'm confused..........

I have talked to my embassy over here and they were telling me different things...so is my recruiter who supposely asked the immigration office in Korea.... =(


Go to the Korean embassy/consulate and apply for your KOREAN passport.

If you are a Korean citizen you will get one and you will NOT need a visa of any kind.

Be aware that if you are a male you will have to serve 2 years in the army before they let you leave Korea.



I can apply for a korean passport even if I have a US passport?
can I have carry both passports?
I am a female, so I won't need to worry about the military duty.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kchax wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
kchax wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Where were you born?

If you were born in Korea nad have not renounced your citizenship... then you're still Korean and do not need a visa.



I was born in the Philippines, but immigrated to Korea at age 7(my father is Korean), and became a Korean citizen. I am now a US citizen, but haven't renounced my Korean citizenship...neither my parents.

would I qualify for F4? or do I even need F4 to work? am I still a Korean citizen? what are my rights?.. I'm confused..........

I have talked to my embassy over here and they were telling me different things...so is my recruiter who supposely asked the immigration office in Korea.... =(


Go to the Korean embassy/consulate and apply for your KOREAN passport.

If you are a Korean citizen you will get one and you will NOT need a visa of any kind.

Be aware that if you are a male you will have to serve 2 years in the army before they let you leave Korea.



I can apply for a korean passport even if I have a US passport?
can I have carry both passports?
I am a female, so I won't need to worry about the military duty.


As long as you are a citizen and have not renounced your citizenship you can get a passport.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a word of warning. as a K-girl you'll probably make 1/2 the $$ if you're working at a hakwon. Try for a public school gig. You might not be able to get a job there because you don't have an E/F visa.
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kchax



Joined: 01 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pak Yu Man wrote:
Just a word of warning. as a K-girl you'll probably make 1/2 the $$ if you're working at a hakwon. Try for a public school gig. You might not be able to get a job there because you don't have an E/F visa.



oh no... the main reason I want to teach is because of the $$...
would I still qualify for E2 even if I don't renounce my korean citizenship? (because it takes 2-3 months).. and I already have a school lined up..
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kchax wrote:
Pak Yu Man wrote:
Just a word of warning. as a K-girl you'll probably make 1/2 the $$ if you're working at a hakwon. Try for a public school gig. You might not be able to get a job there because you don't have an E/F visa.



oh no... the main reason I want to teach is because of the $$...
would I still qualify for E2 even if I don't renounce my korean citizenship? (because it takes 2-3 months).. and I already have a school lined up..


Get your Korean passport and you won't need any visa, won't have any restrictions and have all the options... just get on a plane. come here and go to work. Show your Korean passport to the folks at immigration and your American one to the people at your school. No fuss, no muss, no bother.

Korean/Americans get paid the same as just plain old Americans in the public school system.
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