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Where in the USA or Canada can you live w/o a car?
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Canadian Club



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary.
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gatorchick82



Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: public transport Reply with quote

Boston rocks.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svetlana wrote:
I spent some time in Toronto, and it seemed quote nice. Transit was good and they had a fast metro. If you live in the city (not suburbs) you could easily live without a car.


Indeed. Unfortunately, Toronto has grown without the subway keeping pace. It's great to live on the subway line but odds are your job might not be in the city anymore but out in the burbs. That's not so bad, as driving out of the city in the morning is pretty light.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Washington D.C.
It's also well-connected to other cities via train and bus, something that's not too common in the US. It's easy enough to get to New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Boston, if you'd want to.

I've thought about this a lot, too, since I hate to drive. It's important to consider not only if public transportation exists, but how well it covers the area. For example, you can go to Gwangju or Seoul and basically get a bus anywhere, anytime. In my hometown, with a metropolitian area of 2.4 million, there are buses to the northern suburbs twice a day. Not only that, but the cost of taking a bus and the time required (with waiting and transfers) is prohibitive for many. Considering the city is a case of urban sprawl gone wild, residents practically rely on the suburbs for grocery shopping, department stores, doctors' visits, libraries, schools, restaurants, etc. I don't think I could live in a place that so ridigly defined my schedule like that.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honolulu

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Canadian Club wrote:
Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Calgary.

NO! Yes. Yes. So-so. No.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Son Deureo! wrote:
Seattle has a really good bus system and you can even strap your bicycle to the front of their buses. They might even actually expand the monorail some day like the voters have been voting for the city to do in referendums for years.

Too bad about the 8 months of clouds and rain, though.


It ain't so bad. Better than mountains of snow and 5 months of winter like we get in Canada.


I'm from Buffalo, where we also get five months of winter and mountains of snow and I found myself nostalgic for it after 3 years of Seattle drizzle. Seattle had a lot to offer, but the rain drove me insane and I'd never live there again.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mass transit in vancouver bites. It's over priced and long waits between buses. If I missed a bus where I lived it was an hour for the next one.
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pdx



Joined: 19 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portland, Oregon. I've had acquaintances move from other parts of the U.S. and rave about its public transportation and bike accessibility.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
Washington D.C.
It's also well-connected to other cities via train and bus, something that's not too common in the US. It's easy enough to get to New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Boston, if you'd want to.


yeah, DC isnt bad. The metro is good, and the bus system is generally reliable. Arlington has done a very good job of developing along the metrolines. Other DC suburbs, not as "efficient" and harder to get around minus a car.

I know philadelphia has a subway system, but not too familiar with the city.
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC for sure. In fact, a car in Manhattan is more trouble than it's worth.
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Defintely NOT Houston, Texas, but you'll do allright in Austin, Texas ( a 100x better town anyways) if you can afford 20-40 bucks American a week in taxis.


If you pay 20-40 a week in taxis you could do it in Houston too. You could do that in most cities.

I lived for a year in Houston without a car. I lived in downtown, worked at the clubs in downtown.. it was great. I never got in trouble for speeding, no concerns about DUI. Austin is just as spread out as Houston. I don't think any Texas city would be comfortable without a car unless you are right in the city centers.

New York city and maybe Key West are the only towns in which I would consider living without a car.. Just my 2 cents..
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
mass transit in vancouver bites. It's over priced and long waits between buses. If I missed a bus where I lived it was an hour for the next one.


Vancouver is good if you live along a major transit line (the 98/99B line or skytrain). I lived in the West side, near UBC and thought it was great for getting anywhere I needed to go. Out in Surrey or something may be a different story.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Smee wrote:
Washington D.C.
It's also well-connected to other cities via train and bus, something that's not too common in the US. It's easy enough to get to New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Boston, if you'd want to.


yeah, DC isnt bad. The metro is good, and the bus system is generally reliable. Arlington has done a very good job of developing along the metrolines. Other DC suburbs, not as "efficient" and harder to get around minus a car.


DC is good when you stick to the city. You'll find a metro stop within walking distance of pretty much anywhere you'd want to go, although the Smithsonian stop is quite a jaunt from the monuments. But on the weekends, some of the lines are quite slow (Yellow and Green lines, I'm talking about you), and you may wait up to half an hour for the next train.
And if you want to go ANYWHERE in the Maryland suburbs, forget it. Pain in the arse.
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braunshade



Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere better!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honolulu?? Really?! I thought you really needed a car to get around that city...........
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Defintely NOT Houston, Texas, but you'll do allright in Austin, Texas ( a 100x better town anyways) if you can afford 20-40 bucks American a week in taxis.


20-40 bucks (well, 20) is about what it will cost you per week for a city bus and subway pass in Canada...and that's only if you buy a one month card.
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