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freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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| The woman in the video that started all of this is my girlfriend, so please keep the discussion on the language, and not the woman. I don;t like hearing people talk about her. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent 
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
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Free World
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Drake Hotel
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Any one in Changwon willing to teach a dumb waygook french? |
I suck at learning languages but the book "The Complete Idiot's Guide To Learning French" by Gail Stein helped me. I still can't speak much but that is just for lack of trying. It is a fun book and teaches real French (not Quebec French) to beginners.
Almost as fun as "Spanish for Gringos" by William C. Harvey which I recommend for people wanting to learn basic Spanish.
Not sure if you can get books like that at an English bookstore in Seoul but maybe you could order it online.
Good luck Wrench. |
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Free World
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Drake Hotel
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| freethought wrote: |
| The woman in the video that started all of this is my girlfriend, so please keep the discussion on the language, and not the woman. I don;t like hearing people talk about her. |
I think she is married.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliz%C3%A9e |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Not to mention that there are some Texans whose first language is French. |
That's just not true. We all know that Texans are all racist red-necks and own oil wells. Canadians are all hockey players and listen to Widespread Panic. Parisians are all rude. And people from Arkansas can't count higher than 21. And people from Portland are automatically smarter than everyone else. And Koreans all eat kimchi. ..oh wait, all Koreans DO eat kimchi!
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Lots of Cajuns who still speak French at home and a few first and second generation immigrants from France (a French oil company has employees in Houston) live in Texas. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Fresh Prince wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
The Frenchmen don't even know many proper French words, just the English loan words, so... |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Fresh Prince wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
The Frenchmen don't even know many proper French words, just the English loan words, so... |
Obviously you haven't been to France lately. l'Acedemie has replaced and banned a lot of English words. For example, un computer is now un ordinateur and un keyboard is now un clavier. It has become very puritanistic there over the past decade or so. Now, if you are talking about Canadian French, that is a whole other matter and you would be completely right. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Tu est un anglophone de naissance comme moi adventurer mais ou as tu appris le francais? |
J'ai appris mon francais mon mec au Quebec. Je l'ai etudie et j'ai utilise dans les rues de Montreal. C'est une belle langue avec ces mots superbes:) Hey, Homer, do you like rock? You should listen to the Quebec rock band "Les Trois Accords". They're quite awesome. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Fresh Prince wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
I'll admit, I do think some people in North America when they speak French especially if they are from certain parts of the U.S. it sounds bad and funny at the same time. However, you should give people credit for trying. I think a language Italian is easier to get down in terms of sounding like an Italian. French takes more work in terms of getting the sounds "right". Of course, I am referring to standard French not Corsican, Lac St Jean, Breton style French. Generally, America is not known as a country that is interested in languages, but I do believe an American recently won an extremely important French language prize, so he obviously knows the language better than many French people, even.
However, he is an unfortunate exception. However, considering that people all over the world are learning English, it doesn't give people such an incentive to promote another language in America.
Anyway, I think Svetlana likes to get a rise out of people.... |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Fresh Prince wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
The Frenchmen don't even know many proper French words, just the English loan words, so... |
Obviously you haven't been to France lately. l'Acedemie has replaced and banned a lot of English words. For example, un computer is now un ordinateur and un keyboard is now un clavier. It has become very puritanistic there over the past decade or so. Now, if you are talking about Canadian French, that is a whole other matter and you would be completely right. |
I have, actually. Don't confuse what you see in the media with how regular people talk. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Fresh Prince wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| If you are American, please do not bother learning French. An American accent in French is just about the ugliest thing in the world... |
Hahaha, do you know what the real French say about the Quebecois accent
I've been self studying French and have been looking for more info on self-study. Thanks for the links. |
I'll admit, I do think some people in North America when they speak French especially if they are from certain parts of the U.S. it sounds bad and funny at the same time. However, you should give people credit for trying. I think a language Italian is easier to get down in terms of sounding like an Italian. French takes more work in terms of getting the sounds "right". Of course, I am referring to standard French not Corsican, Lac St Jean, Breton style French. Generally, America is not known as a country that is interested in languages, but I do believe an American recently won an extremely important French language prize, so he obviously knows the language better than many French people, even.
However, he is an unfortunate exception. However, considering that people all over the world are learning English, it doesn't give people such an incentive to promote another language in America.
Anyway, I think Svetlana likes to get a rise out of people.... |
It is most certainly possible for Americans to learn French as a second language. Some American celebrities have done so. For example, Jodie Foster speaks French better than many Frenchmen. Brooke Shields and Candice Bergen (widow of great French movie director Louis Malle) both speak French quite well, too.
And then there's Jerry Lewis.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a991001.html
(I've actually seen his two French movies. Let's just say it doesn't sound like he became fluent in French for the movies like Meryl Streep did with German for Sophie's Choice).
There are quite a few French American celebrities: Angelina Jolie (mom is French Canadian, don't know if she speaks French), Madonna (mom was French Canadian, dito), Paula Abdul (mom is French Canadian, again, don't know if she speaks French), Jack Kerouac, Robert Goulet (originally from Canada, speaks French fluently), Will James (Ernest Dufault, originally from Quebec...http://artmuseum.org/art/cowboy.php), Leelee Sobieski (dad is French, speaks French fluently)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_American
My personal favorite: Dan Ackroyd (well, technically not an American, but close enough). Grew up in Quebec, mom is French-Canadian. He speak French fluently (with a slight anglo accent).
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I found Pimsleur French course is pretty good. I am finding French Hell of a lot easier then Korean.
Granted I speak polish and a lot of grammar is similar. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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J' ai aussi etudie a Montreal adventurer!
Une superbe ville en effet. Le meilleur nighlife au Canada et des gens sympathiques. Je ne connais les les trois accords mais je vais aller voir...!
Quand etais tu a Montreal adventurer? Est-tu de naissance montrealaise? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
J' ai aussi etudie a Montreal adventurer!
Une superbe ville en effet. Le meilleur nighlife au Canada et des gens sympathiques. Je ne connais les les trois accords mais je vais aller voir...!
Quand etais tu a Montreal adventurer? Est-tu de naissance montrealaise? |
Non, je suis ne a Toronto precisement a Scarborough mais j'ai vecu a Montreal pour quelques annees et aussi a Ottawa et Hull. J'etais aussi dans une vrai petite ville du Quebec qui s'appelle Mason. J'aime bien Montreal c'est l'une de mes villes favorites au monde. Peut-etre c'est ma ville preferee. Ca fait un bout de temps que je n'ai pas pratique mon francais si souvent... Je ne connais pas des francophones ici. La semaine passee j'etais fache avec un gars qui a vraiment insultes les Canadiens du Quebec. Il etait raciste et ses amis non pas le corriger...
Salut.... |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Wow it looks like French pop is just as lame as Korean pop. haha.. |
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