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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| braunshade wrote: |
| Honolulu?? Really?! I thought you really needed a car to get around that city........... |
The third greatest public transit system in the USof A.
http://www.enterprisehonolulu.com/html/display.cfm?sid=164
For the benefit of all those tourists.
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cosmicgirlie
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Svetlana wrote: |
| I spent some time in Toronto, and it seemed quote nice. Transit was good and they had a fast metro. If you live in the city (not suburbs) you could easily live without a car. |
Indeed. Unfortunately, Toronto has grown without the subway keeping pace. It's great to live on the subway line but odds are your job might not be in the city anymore but out in the burbs. That's not so bad, as driving out of the city in the morning is pretty light. |
You can get around anywhere in Toronto via the TTC and not have to drive. You can get out into the burbs with the GO it just doesn't have a schedule that is convienient. Any of the transit systems along the Lakeshore line are reliable for the 'anti-commuters'. I've done the anti-commute while living in downtown Toronto. My job was in Burlington. I didn't drive so I took the GO into work and hopped on a bus in Burlington for $0.50. Cheaper than owning a car and paying for gas and insurance.
Toronto is a city you don't have to own a vehicle. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmicgirlie wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Svetlana wrote: |
| I spent some time in Toronto, and it seemed quote nice. Transit was good and they had a fast metro. If you live in the city (not suburbs) you could easily live without a car. |
Indeed. Unfortunately, Toronto has grown without the subway keeping pace. It's great to live on the subway line but odds are your job might not be in the city anymore but out in the burbs. That's not so bad, as driving out of the city in the morning is pretty light. |
You can get around anywhere in Toronto via the TTC and not have to drive. You can get out into the burbs with the GO it just doesn't have a schedule that is convienient. Any of the transit systems along the Lakeshore line are reliable for the 'anti-commuters'. I've done the anti-commute while living in downtown Toronto. My job was in Burlington. I didn't drive so I took the GO into work and hopped on a bus in Burlington for $0.50. Cheaper than owning a car and paying for gas and insurance.
Toronto is a city you don't have to own a vehicle. |
You don't have to own a car, but when you get off the subway line and start relying on buses, a car starts looking very, very good. The bus sucks. Long wait times, cold bus stops in bitter Toronto winters, smelly people in summer.
I lived in Toronto for ten years. If I could take a subway or street car, I'd take one. If I had to take a bus or go train to get there, I'd take my car. When my job was downtown and I lived in High Park, I'd pretty much only use my car on Sunday for grocery shopping. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
| Defintely NOT Houston, Texas, but you'll do allright in Austin, Texas ( a 100x better town anyways) if you can afford 20-40 bucks American a week in taxis. |
it would be a pain in the arse to live here in Austin without a car, unless everything you did, including work was very close to where you lived. |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Atlanta, Georgia, as long as you stay within the perimeter. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| krats1976 wrote: |
| Pretty much anywhere with a mass transit system. ... Which means pretty much anywhere. |
anywhere doesn't include diamondhead, mississippi. |
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bixlerscott
Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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| Forget it. If living in NA anywhere, but San Francisco or Manhattan, buy a car. It's too much of a headache on how to operate in a time efficient enough manner to live profitably without a car in much of NA. And then if you are not earning anything more than an average working salary(12,000 to 18,000 USD/per annum), the car itself, will keep you poor. |
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johnevandavid
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: mass transit in NA |
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Has anybody seen that episode of "The Simpsons" where somebody tries to install a high-speed rail, and then they find out that high-speed rails are "terribly unsafe" (or something like that...?)
My religious views do not include a hell. But if they did, I would make a reservation for the person that wrote that episode. |
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giovanni
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: NO
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: mass transit in NA |
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| johnevandavid wrote: |
Has anybody seen that episode of "The Simpsons" where somebody tries to install a high-speed rail, and then they find out that high-speed rails are "terribly unsafe" (or something like that...?)
My religious views do not include a hell. But if they did, I would make a reservation for the person that wrote that episode. |
You just wished eternal damnation on Conan O'Brien!
"Marge vs. the Monorail" is one of the greatest Simpsons episodes ever. The premise was that Lyle Lanley (voiced by Phil Hartman) rips off the town of Springfield by cutting costs everywhere while constructing said monorail. |
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johnevandavid
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: mass transit in NA |
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| giovanni wrote: |
You just wished eternal damnation on Conan O'Brien!
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It was sort of a conditional damnation, based on the premise that I don't believe in such a thing, anyway.
But I don't want Andy to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, and I want to see him back on the show one of these days, so I recant. |
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