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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
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I got a nice clean copy of English XP at Yongsan yesterday from the guy in the tunnel with the cell-phone and the smoke. Works perfectly. 15,000!! Thank you very much. |
Make sure you can update to SP1- that's where Microsoft is drawing their line in the sand on illegal copies. |
What is SP1? (in computer dummy terms please) |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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SP1 is an upgrade download from Microsoft. You can only install it with a registered copy of XP (or a hacked one). |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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If I can't download SP1 how will that affect my XP? |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Without sp1 windows will take longer to boot up and be a little buggy with a few things. If you have Corporate XP it's pretty easy to hack and you can get all the upgrades. |
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BTM
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Back in the saddle.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Right. Time to cut through the misinformation.
SP stands for Service Pack. All MS operating systems, server products, and Office releases have service packs. A Service Pack is just a bunch of bug fixes rolled up into a single, large download.
With SP1, if you used the VLK (volume license key) which was leaked by a corporate client shortly before the release of XP (home or corporate), the one that begins FCKx xxxx xxxx xxxx, installing SP1 will lock you out from using Windows Update in the future, and that's all it will do.
If you used one of the other hundreds of generated keys out there (or made you own using the keygen that is available via your favorite peer-to-peer network) (or a legitimate key, of course), you will be fine.
That is all. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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BTM wrote: |
With SP1, if you used the VLK (volume license key) which was leaked by a corporate client shortly before the release of XP (home or corporate), the one that begins FCKx xxxx xxxx xxxx, installing SP1 will lock you out from using Windows Update in the future, and that's all it will do. |
Actually, it just won't let you use the SP1 mass update which simplifies the update process if updating from the original version of XP. That's it. You can select everything individually or let auto-update handle upgrades, but many updates require reboots thus it's a much slower process than using the SP1 update. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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The generated keys don't always (or even often) work. Microsoft keeps a database of all the keys they've issued and even a mathematically correct key, if it's not in the database, won't work. Key generators are hit and miss because of this (trust me, I've done a whole lot of swearing).
As well, keys that have been used a number of times won't work. The FCK... key is the one that is typically used for the Corporate Windows and it'll work for installation but it won't allow updates. However, if you hack the registry (directions are online everywhere) you can get all the updates you've ever wanted, not only SP1. |
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BTM
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Back in the saddle.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've personally used about 6 different generated VLK corp keys on different installations with complete success. (Strictly for testing purposes, of course!)
YMMV, clearly. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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BTM wrote: |
I've personally used about 6 different generated VLK corp keys on different installations with complete success. (Strictly for testing purposes, of course!)
YMMV, clearly. |
What's YMMV?
Anyway, everybody has different luck and success. I've tried at least 20 (probably many more) keys and not one worked for registering -- maybe it was a problem with the different key generators, who knows? I've always resorted to hacking the registry. |
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BTM
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Back in the saddle.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry : YMMV="your mileage might vary"
[/intArweb geek]
The beauty of a VLK key is that registration isn't necessary. Never done it. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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If Windows XP is reinstalled in English, do all the programs like Windows Media change to English? I have been trying to change my Windows Media to English, but I cannot. And do all the files remain. when Korean Windows XP changes to English Windows XP?
thanks |
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kimcheeking Guest
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:16 am Post subject: |
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When you reinstall, be sure to back up your files to another drive or CD, then when the option comes up choose format drive. Everything will be deleted- EVERYTHING- then English will be installed and yes windows media will then be in English... as well as everything else... |
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Corvid
Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to add this to a couple of threads, so forgive the redundancy. This post applies to Windows XP.
Most of us get computers that have legal copies of windows, except they're in Korean, and for most of us that sucks. So then we get "borrowed" copies of windows and can't update them, so we're vulnerable to all the problems that windows has, good god, especially last month! So this is an idiots guide to solving these problems. Experts can feel free to offer additional advice. But do it on this thread.
Even before first, you are going to make two partitions on that hard drive, now aren't you? If everything gets messed up in the future, wouldn't it be nice to have all those mp3s and Simpsons episodes safe in a different partition. You can also save the installation exe files there, so you won't have to re-download kazaa. Now, I feel paranoid, but if I ever do need them, I'll feel smart.
First! After installing Windows, stop it from doing its crazy stuff! Don't update, don't go to microsoft's website. In retrospect, the first thing I'd do is install XP-antispy. This is a little utility that stops windows from sending information about you and your grandmother to everybody you don't know. All it does is change settings that you could change manually, it just saves you hours of fiddling around. Get it here. It's in German. Just click on the UK flag.
Then, while you're at it, get spybot. It removes those pesky tracking cookies that take up your cpu's energy for corporate greed-mongers. Get it here. Some users here and elsewhere like adaware, but I haven't used it.
Run these two programs. In XP anti-spy, click everything, except maybe the zip functionality check at the bottom. Install and run spybot. If you've been on the Internet, just go crazy looking at all the things that send information about you to who-knows-who. Now I'd recommend re-booting and making a system restore point. (Programs/system tools...create a restore point.)
Now, you can visit microsoft for the SP1a service pack. When you go there, do not do the Express Installation. Make like you're doing a network installation, and download the big file here. Save it to disc.
Do not run it! You are not ready. This last part had me sweating bullets, but it worked! Hooray!
You have to change your serial. Well, maybe you don't, but I did. Go to "my computer" and right click, and go down to properties. Under "your" name (you didn't really use your name, did you?) what does the number look like? These two are flagged by Bill and the boys as bad:
XXXXX-640-0000356-23XXX and
XXXXX-640-2001765-XXXXX
Have one of those numbers? I couldn't believe that I could change it. On the second page of this article at TweakTown there is a download for a serial changer, where it says "Download the Serial Key Changer program and Viewer here." It worked just fine for me, and I now have a different serial. It was a little worrisome when it had me check the box that said I was going to call microsoft, but so far, no commandos at my door. And, no, I didn't have to call anybody. Just follow the instructions on that uber-helpful article.
After you run it... I think you have to re-boot... Do it anyway. Then run SP1a. Then re-boot.
Now run XP antispy again. A setting or two was changed by SP1.
Then, until you or I can afford to buy Norton Anti-virus, run AVG free anti-virus. Download it here.
Anyway, now I feel safe running the little fixes that Microsoft puts out for its vulnerabilities. I don't feel safe doing Express Installations. Just make like you're a system administrator who has 100 machines to update, and download the big files.
Okay experts, how much did I leave out? But answer on this thread. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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The generated keys don't always (or even often) work. Microsoft keeps a database of all the keys they've issued and even a mathematically correct key, if it's not in the database, won't work. Key generators are hit and miss because of this (trust me, I've done a whole lot of swearing). |
I dunno Beav... I think something else is going wrong for you. I'm not saying I've ever done it, but if I had done MANY installs of XP/SP1 over the last year, I'd have had a 100 percent success rate with every generated S/N. And when you update the S/N, it doesn't "phone home" to Microsoft (unplug your network if you don't believe this), so there's no way for it to check a database of all the legit S/Ns. If it's mathematically correct, it'll work. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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The Lemon wrote: |
I dunno Beav... I think something else is going wrong for you. I'm not saying I've ever done it, but if I had done MANY installs of XP/SP1 over the last year, I'd have had a 100 percent success rate with every generated S/N. And when you update the S/N, it doesn't "phone home" to Microsoft (unplug your network if you don't believe this), so there's no way for it to check a database of all the legit S/Ns. If it's mathematically correct, it'll work. |
Maybe a bad key generator. |
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