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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: Still blame the mother for autism |
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A long time ago, mothers were thought to be the cause of their child's autism. They were referred to as refrigerator mothers. It's understood today that a mother's cold response to her child is her learned behavior. A child doesn't like to be cuddled, you don't cuddle it.
Anyway, I recently stumbled on this URL about autism research in Asia. Basically, outside of Japan, there's none. In Korea it seems doctors still blame the mother:
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Michael Hong, a professor of psychiatry at Seoul National University, who is sometimes described as South Korea's founding father of child psychiatry, is among those Asian researchers who dispute the growing consensus, arguing that autism is not nearly as prevalent as western researchers believe, perhaps afflicting just one youngster in every 10,000.
Hong argues that behaviour that is often labelled as autism is rather a largely environmentally caused disorder that mimics autism, known as reactive attachment disorder, the cause of which is largely the fault of the children's mothers, who have been buffeted about by the winds of cultural change sweeping east Asia.
"They don't really appreciate what's happening here," Hong says of the western researchers.
Those researchers are not only challenging Hong's hard-earned reputation, they are also flying in the face of culturally embedded Korean notions about the role of women and the nature of parenting. "It's seen as a disease that impugns the whole family," explains Grinker, a professor of anthropology at George Washington University. |
Ah, typical Korean nationalism. Those genetic researchers just don't understand how Koreans bring up their children. We don't need baby seats in our cars. We don't need to believe regressive genetics have entered the pure Korean bloodlines... |
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pdx
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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interesting.
I've worked with children a lot, and studied human development in college. In my past work with kids I"ve had a couple kids with autism that I worked with, with varying degrees of severity.
Then I come here, and I'm teaching at an expensive hagwon, and I've had two students who obviously had problems, yet, as the teacher, I have received no information about these students. I mean, they are obviously high functioning autistic, yet either nobody has diagnosed them and their parents and doctors choose not to, or nobody deems it necessary to TELL THEIR TEACHER.
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gsxr750r

Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, work in a public school setting with hundreds of kids, and you run into at least a few "accidentally." Nobody tells you, and you don't find out until you call on one randomly to answer a question in class. I kept asking one girl for a very simple answer to a very simple question, and she wouldn't even look at me.
Another girl next to her said, "Teacher, she's sick."
I felt kind of bad about it.
Had another girl in class who was one of my favorite students. She was very slow. She moved slow, spoke slow, but was actually learning English in class. She took notes as best she could, although very slowly. When I first called on her to answer a question, the whole class literally held their breath. Some girls giggled. When she couldn't answer, I moved on, but a while later, her neighbor said, "Teacher, she wants to try again." She did, and slowly answered, depspite giggles from the rest of the class. The answer was incorrect, but close.
As time went on, I sometimes called on her, and she would slowly answer. Her accent was better than most, and people would clap when she got it right. I asked her homeroom teacher what was wrong, and she told me the girl was retarded. Apparently, her mother refused to accept that she couldn't become "normal" one day, and studied with her every night.
That girl would be a Senior now. I will try to find her again and say, "hello" the next time I visit my old school. Sometimes, I wish I owned a successful business. I would hire a woman like that to do something -- anything -- just to give her a job and make her life a little easier. |
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pdx
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah.
Autism is usually marked by an inability to interact on a normal social level, and the inability to focus, while still being really smart about certain subjects.
Examples: the third grade boy I had during student teaching was slightly autistic- he would start to yell and wanted to fight when confronted with the smallest things. He was good at math, yet hated to write. Refused to use his pencil to write things.
Fifth grade boy I worked with was mainstreamed into my student teaching class for math and reading. Very smart, understood a lot of things, yet needed a LOT of direction to keep focused on his work. Was often shaving and carving in his desk. He was more high functioning because you could hold a good conversation with him, but he did NOT interact well with his peers.
And then when i worked in a daycare we had a boy who was fairly autistic, who would get up and pace around the room while all the other children were sitting. He often got into arguments with the teachers. He didn't play at all with the other kids. However, if you asked him what day of the week a certain date (past or present) fell on, he knew the answer. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Korean doctors blaming the mothers is about as dumb as in the US, when certain groups blame vaccinations. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Whether it's vaccinations or not, autism is apparently skyrocketing in the US. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Whether it's vaccinations or not, autism is apparently skyrocketing in the US. |
It's certainly not coming from vaccines. Probably some other environmental trigger. Or perhaps, it isn't skyrocking, but the awareness/reporting of the disease is improving in the US. I'm sure that in Korea, most people have no idea what autism is, so the official numbers would be depressed. |
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denistron
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Whether it's vaccinations or not, autism is apparently skyrocketing in the US. |
It's certainly not coming from vaccines. Probably some other environmental trigger. Or perhaps, it isn't skyrocking, but the awareness/reporting of the disease is improving in the US. I'm sure that in Korea, most people have no idea what autism is, so the official numbers would be depressed. |
I think you are right. More people are reporting it. Just like suddenly all kids have ADHD. |
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tiger fancini

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Testicles for Eyes
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