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Blue eyes are better than brown eyes
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over half of the smartest kids in my school had brown eyes and black hair. Of course, they were all Asian.
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krats1976



Joined: 14 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have eyes that change color with my wardrobe or mood (tend to be more green when I'm tired or angry, for example).

Kinda fun.
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Lao Wai



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You people are all retarded...er..mentally challenged...er...special needs..er...exceptional learners. Yes, I think that last term is the accepted term nowadays. You are all just so 'exceptional'.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, so all the stars with eye surgery and the plastic surgery ads are part of a giant experiment to see what happens when double-eyelids are promoted over single eyelids?

i wonder when it will end.
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heydelores



Joined: 24 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's part 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcO0Ah64rM&NR
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Star-belly Sneetches...
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of our teachers did this activity for our (adult) students for Culture Day at our company. It was a lead in to the history of the American Civil Rights movement.

I believe he separated them out by birthdays somehow. It really pissed them off, but I imagine it had the intended effect, because Koreans don't have a history of discussing racism (or sexism, bias against religions, etc.) in the same way Westerners do. I would try it for a university class.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind, as you do the experiment, that the problem with it was the ethics involved. Experimenting on people without their knowledge can be quit dodgy. Perhaps particularly for a teacher.
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heydelores



Joined: 24 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of Part 5 (here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcO0Ah64rM&NR ), the teacher advises that the activity probably shouldn't be done in every classroom and certainly shouldn't be carried out by every teacher. I think it's pretty sound advice.
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Gangnam has a clinic doing eye transplants for people that want blue eyes.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
The mid-zone I have is the best. Green when I want them to be and blue when I want them to be (just a quick shirt change is all it takes).

Mine actually change according to the season. Blue/Bluey-grey in winter, Green/Greeny-blue in summer. My dad's do the same.
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grainger



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Wonju, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a grade 10 english teacher who did a similar type of experiment with us. As a way of teaching us how easily we can become willing participants in our own discrimination. Kind of like how the blue eyed people who never spoke up became willing through inaction.

He had most of the class wearing card board collars by the end of the period because that was easier than resisting, standing up for ourselves, and facing the consequences of doing so. He used it as a way to explain how things could possibly get as bad as they did in Nazi Germany. I can't remember the book but the man was brilliant.

There was also another experiment done after world war two in which psychologists put a person on one side of a screen with a device that they were told would deliever an an increasingly painful shock to the person on the other side of the screen whenever they got the answer to a question wrong. What the subject delivering the electric shocks didn't know was that the person they were supposed to be shocking was really just an actor pretending to be shocked. The actor would eventually pretend to go into cardiac arrest but the person delivering the shock would keep on shocking them just because the authority figure, the psychologist, told them they had to. Some of the subjects were in tears but they kept on pressing the button.

I can't remember what consequences were set in place for disobeying the authority figure, monetary I'd imagine, but no one did. The experiment was conducted to try and figure out why the German soldiers would follow orders making them responsible for the deaths of countless innocent Jewish citizens.

It was an eye opener to how people are programmed to submit to an authority figure.

It really opened the door to a discussion of ethics in psychology too. This and Dr. Watson conditioning babies to be afraid of bunny rabbits. That was pretty bad.
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maya.the.bee



Joined: 12 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grainger wrote:
There was also another experiment done after world war two in which psychologists put a person on one side of a screen with a device that they were told would deliever an an increasingly painful shock to the person on the other side of the screen whenever they got the answer to a question wrong. What the subject delivering the electric shocks didn't know was that the person they were supposed to be shocking was really just an actor pretending to be shocked. The actor would eventually pretend to go into cardiac arrest but the person delivering the shock would keep on shocking them just because the authority figure, the psychologist, told them they had to. Some of the subjects were in tears but they kept on pressing the button.

I can't remember what consequences were set in place for disobeying the authority figure, monetary I'd imagine, but no one did. The experiment was conducted to try and figure out why the German soldiers would follow orders making them responsible for the deaths of countless innocent Jewish citizens.


Stanley Milgram's obedience studies - the subjects were told before they even began that they would receive the $7-8 compensation even if they did NOT complete the experiment. They were never told they MUST continue.

Check out "The man who shocked the world" bio of Milgram.
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KOREAN_MAN



Joined: 01 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Blue eyes are better than brown eyes Reply with quote

Lao Wai wrote:
Anyway, check it out. They videotaped the students. Four parts on youtube. The fifth is missing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0gUchvopOc


I've only seen the first one so far but very interesting. Thanks for posting this. Man, isn't she a real teacher.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PBS series Frontline has a documentary about the teacher, Jane Elliot, and the class activity.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/


I'm sure you have all noticed that it happened in Iowa. Very Happy
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