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[jaderedux]

[Rteacher]

"Jaderedux" is correct that buying and consuming milk from dairies that abuse and ultimately slaughter their cows is not good.

However, a lacto-vegetarian diet can be healthy and beneficial for humans and cows - as well as for other animals and the environment.

In model farms run by Hare Krishnas and other groups trying to follow Vedic culture, both cows and bulls are protected, and cows are not "forced" to give milk. They give it willingly.

Modern processing of milk, including homogenizing, growth hormones, etc. makes it a much less healthful product, but when milk is prepared and consumed according to Ayurvedic guidelines it's an excellent food for humans of all ages (what to speak of the health benefits of yogurt...)

In parts of India, there is much more support - even governmental - for cow and bull protection. The following is taken from the website of a Vedic-style farm in India:

Farming systems can be defined in many ways. VEDA (The Vegetarian Environmental Development Association) has defined three different farming systems according to the diet the farming system feeds - a meat-based diet, a vegetarian diet and a vegan diet; though overlap between the diets does exist.

1. The rearing of animals for slaughter provides for a milk and meat-based diet. This meat-based farming system is the presently accepted norm in most of the world, with India as a notable exception.

2. The rearing of animals for useful products and services without slaughtering the animals provides for a vegetarian diet. This farming system is that followed by Protection Farms.

3. Farm animals need not be used at all, leaving a vegan, plant-based diet. This system is presently being developed according to vegan standards.

Protection Farms utilizes all domesticated farm animals, though the main farm animal, as in most farming systems, is the cow. Presented below are comparisons between the three farming systems outlined, using the cow as an exemplar.

A table showing dietary comparisons and their implications to the farmed animals, using the cow as an exemplar.

http://www.mothercow.org/oxen/comparing-diet.html

[kermo]

Omega 3 and Omega 6 are easily found in eggs if chicken are fed flax. I would guess that there are plenty of sources, but maybe not currently in the diet of British mothers-to-be. I'm sure fish is very healthy and all (if you can manage to avoid the heavy metals in fish like tuna) but it's certainly not the Only Option for people who want to give their kids the best nutrition.

[Canadian Club]

[the_beaver]

[sjrm]

from what i've heard, the kosher diet is the healthiest diet.

[superacidjax]

[Sister Ray]

[superacidjax]

[Sister Ray]

[superacidjax]

I wasn't wanting to bash vegetarians. I was more interested in finding out why people are so militant about it. You are not included in the militant group of course.

I personally don't care what people eat. I was more interested if people thought that the lifestyle is appropriate for children. Of course, some medical conditions might require the diet, that's obviously a different issue.

I admit, the whole thing is a bit childish. I need to be careful about drunk thread starting! lol..

Perhaps we'll meet tomorrow for an adult beverage.. I have my special delivery arriving from Texas in a few hours and she'd love to meet you..

[Bramble]

[superacidjax]

[Rteacher]

John Locke and Adam Smith both advocated vegetarian diets...

English metaphysician John Locke attacked cruelty to animals in his "Thoughts on Education," which dealt with the issue of raising children to be virtuous and humane. "This tendency to cruelty should be watched in them," wrote Locke, "and, if they incline to any such cruelty, they should be taught the contrary usage. For the custom of tormenting and killing of beasts will, by degrees, harden their hearts even towards men. And, they who delight in the suffering and destruction of inferior creatures, will not be apt to be very compassionate or benign to those of their own kind. Children should from the beginning be brought up in an abhorrence of killing or tormenting any living creature." ...
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/pea-peace.html

It may indeed be doubted whether butchers� meat is anywhere a necessary of life. Grain and other vegetables, with the help of milk, cheese, and butter, or oil where butter is not to be had, afford the most plentiful, the most wholesome, the most nourishing, and the most invigorating diet. Decency nowhere requires that any man should eat butchers� meat.� (Economist Adam Smith in �The Wealth of Nations�)
http://krishna.org.ohio-state.edu/vegkarma.htm

I agree that some vegans and PETA members tend to be fanatical and that some of their tactics and policies are counterproductive. I think that's due to fact that their underlying philosophy is somewhat at variance with Vedic culture...

[Bramble]