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seoul_nhl



Joined: 18 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Buying an apartment! Reply with quote

Anyone know about buying property ie. apartment or officetel? I'm not Korean and I'm not married to one either. So what are my options is it even possible? Plus I'm here on an E-2 visa.
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Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice topic, seoul_nhl. I'd like to know about this, too.

I currently have a couple of properties in Japan ticking over nicely, and with fond memories of time spent in South Korea, I'm thinking it would be nice to relocate there.

In addition to the OP's questions, I'd also like to find out about prices (not sure about exact locations yet, so at the moment my preferred location is "South Korea").
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Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could you tell me about properties in Japan? How can expats pruchase them etc...


It's pretty much the same as when a Japanese person buys real estate. I'm trying to imagine what specific matters you might be wondering about, so here are a few.

First, real estate agents will not demand a higher price just because you are a foreigner. Your money is as good as any Japanese person's.

Second, the costs of buying a property (agent's fees, title deed registration, etc.) are about 10% of the purchase price. Again, no-one is trying to rip you off; these are legitimate costs. So remember, the actual cost will be the price + 10%.

Third, to register a property in your name, you need your Alien Registration. Therefore, you need to be a resident of Japan.

Fourth, be aware of current trends in Japanese real estate. After the economic bubble burst, property prices plummeted across the board. However, althought the economy is now recovering, prices are only growing in certain areas. In other words, if you want to make a capital gain, choose your location very carefully.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just start going to a few 'pokdokbang' agents in the neighborhood(s) you're interested in. Have a budget in mind. For an apartment, you can still pick some up for around 300,000-350,000 USD in less popular areas.

There are no issues in Korea anymore when it comes to buying. No problem. I would, however, recommend taking a Korean with you.

Many Koreans are waiting for prices to come down a bit. Apartments are so expensive in some areas that renting them out (monthly or chunsay) isn't economical; better off to just leave the money in a bank at 5%. Some people accepted this risk, hoping to sell high. It would seem that the market isn't supporting that strategy anymore. You might want to check out the new places going up in Songo. Heard that is hot.
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leebumlik69



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: DiRectly above you. Pissing Down

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
..You might want to check out the new places going up in Songo..

Don;t you man Songdo? I don't know Songo. Where is that?
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Are they the lemmings



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
For an apartment, you can still pick some up for around 300,000-350,000 USD in less popular areas.


Does that apply only to Seoul? Would I be right in assuming prices are highest in Seoul and generally lower elsewhere?
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Just start going to a few 'pokdokbang' agents in the neighborhood(s) you're interested in. Have a budget in mind. For an apartment, you can still pick some up for around 300,000-350,000 USD in less popular areas.


I've seen prices for villas in Incheon starting at W70,000,000. I believe decent high rise apartments in Pohang started at W100,000,000.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about bank loans? I could come up with about 1/2 of the cost of the apartment. Will banks loan to foreigners?
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be VERY careful.

It is not unheard of for people here to sell a place that's not even there, then take your money and split.

The gf and I have been looking at buying (but we decided not to just now) an offictell in the Intelli-G in Jeonja-dong/Bundang. She said it's important to check with some city office, or another, that the person selling the place actually owns it. Not sure what to tell you about that, exactly, but just be careful -- realtor or not!
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I know who the owner is, and yes, she does own the place. I like where I am and plan on staying for the long term. It would be SOOO much better if I could buy the place!!
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Corky



Joined: 06 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't have to do with buying property, but it's related. If you're going to sink chunsey somewhere, there's a place you can go to check the credit rating of the person taking it.

Apparently it gives the whole financial low-down. My friend just avoided an apartment because when he checked, the guy who owned the place owed money to a bunch of people and was on the verge of bankruptcy.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Yes, I meant SonGdo. Mistype. My bad.

2) I wouldn't advise buying a villa. They don't go up in price, they are tough to sell, and even renting them can be a problem. If you really, really need or want to buy a cheap place, though, then they are an option. Unless my back was to the wall, I wouldn't.

3) Yes, you can check the financial 'safety' of a building/unit prior to plunking down your chunsay or even pochungkum. If fact, this can be done on the computer, and the realestate agent can pull one up for you in minutes. If there is a lean on the property, it's risky. Also, you should know that in case of a financial problem in which the property is sold or goes to auction, the inhabitants are paid out in the order that they went in. If you were the last to move in, you'll be the last to get your chunsay back. Of course, the bank is always first in line!
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RosyYng



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if i will be working and schooling in SEOUL, but prob marry a korean, and would prob be buying an apartment then. I am planning on moving to SEOUL with about 100,000 USD in my bank. Is it really spendy in Seoul?
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Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many helpful posts in this thread!

I wonder if someone could clue me in on something. Does "villa" entail something different in Korea from elsewhere (in the same way that "mansion", for instance, means apartment in Japan)?
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a villa is an apartment that is in a small building. If a building has more than "X" amount of units than it is an apartment building. IF it has less than it is a villa. Koreans like the idea of living in large apartment complexes. I guess they are seen to be more secure and have better facilities nearby them.

i would guess now is not a good time to bye because it looks like the market has topped out. also the government is trying various plans to lower the prices of apartments.
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