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Park English
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: Itaewon Seoul
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 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: Immigration Does Police Record Checks now |
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Has anyone been rejected by immigration because they performed a police record check and suspect that you had a record?
We recently had two teachers rejected for a private school position as Immigration claimed that they had found them to have a police record in the US.
This was the first time something like this has happened in over three years of processing teachers through Immigration. We were not aware that Immigration performed these checks, and was wondering if anyone had a similiar experience.
We know that our two teachers have no record, and coincidentally, they are going to the same school.
Has anyone had this experience and would a police clearance check be the only solution?
Any response would be greatly appreciated.
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| A record check in Korea or in their home countries? |
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ilovebdt
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they just don't want them.
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Park English
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| A record check in Korea or in their home countries? |
Police record checks in the US |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Park English wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| A record check in Korea or in their home countries? |
Police record checks in the US |
So Immi is claiming to have run checks on these applicants?
As far as I know, you have to sign disclosure agreements for a 3rd party to run a check on ya.
/shrug
But, after 9/11, maybe they let info go a lot easier. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Are you talking ethnic Koreans, or foreigners??
How in heck could a Korean entity get private information on other waygookins - the FBI?? This sounds ludacris. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's not impossible.
NZ Govt. told me over the phone I was fine-even though they had no way of confirming who I was.
Then of course they strenuously denied it. 
Or,maybe they just didn't like the teachers in question.
I had a police check done in Korea.30 minutes and free. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Immigration Does Police Record Checks now |
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| Park English wrote: |
| Has anyone been rejected by immigration because they performed a police record check and suspect that you had a record? |
Immigration does NOT do police record checks. Police are not going to give that kind of info over the phone (provided of course the Immigration official speaks English well enough to be understood). Second, these record checks cost money. Who is going to pay it? Immigration? Please.
SCHOOLS may require a criminal record check, but that is the responsibility of the teacher to supply (it cost me $25 and waiting 3.5 months to get mine).
IMMIGRATION does not require it nor ask for it.
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| We recently had two teachers rejected for a private school position as Immigration claimed that they had found them to have a police record in the US. |
I suspect they lied to you. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
How in heck could a Korean entity get private information on other waygookins - the FBI?? This sounds ludacris. |
http://www.journalismnet.com/people/uscrime.htm
Several choices here. But it's probably more time and effort than any Immigration officer would be willing to put in. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Korean immigration is going to be following what most other countries do...and that is background checks for foreigners.
The U.S. does it before issuing a visa, so does Canada, Australia, England, Germany, France, and a host of other countries....in the U.S., the person wanting the visa pays for it.
By virture of applying for a work visa for a foreign country...one consents to a background check. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
Korean immigration is going to be following what most other countries do...and that is background checks for foreigners.
The U.S. does it before issuing a visa, so does Canada, Australia, England, Germany, France, and a host of other countries....in the U.S., the person wanting the visa pays for it.
By virture of applying for a work visa for a foreign country...one consents to a background check. |
Nonsense. I don't know about the other countries but that is definitely not true for Canada. You have to sign a consent form...or they don't get to look at it. The signing of the work visa does NOT automatically give consent to a background check. |
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wylies99
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I have nothing to hide, but I doubt Korean authorties would do it on their own with the cost and actual work involved.
If it is true, many "teachers" had better watch out. |
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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What ya gonna do?~
What cha gonna do?~
What cha gonna do when they come for you?~~~  |
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supernick
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Nonsense. I don't know about the other countries but that is definitely not true for Canada. You have to sign a consent form...or they don't get to look at it. The signing of the work visa does NOT automatically give consent to a background check. |
Police forces share information. They might not get an official transcript of your record, but i do know that in the U.S., they have access to parts of Canada's data base. Korean immigration falls under the department of justice, and i think they might have access to the U.S's data base. There is a difference to having access to information and obtaining an officail transcript. In Canada and the U.S., they might not give transcripts but I'm sure information is shared between many countries law enforcement bodies. U.S. border guards have clear access to CPIC which stores information on convictions and arrests, and even if people have been suspected of crimminal activity.
But you are right, the RCMP will not reveal your record to a third party without your consent, yet law enforcement bodies share,and have access to this information. I don't know if Korea has access to this sensitive information on Canadians, but I'm sure the Koreans and the Americans are sharing information. |
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Toast and Kimchee
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Although your consent is required for a background check, if you don't give it you're as good as a child molester in an employer's eyes and you probably will not be hired.
I recently filled out a U.S. teaching application that asked me to waive my rights of privacy regarding any former employer files or reference information (verbal or written). This is in the good 'ole U.S.. How does that strike you?
Big Brother's getting Bigger... |
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